Is abortion early on right or wrong? Since the fetus does not feel or think at this stage, it is a piece of tissue, I contend that abortion is ok at this stage.
It should be Funded and Redily available on demand (In Every Turd World Country Village & Town & City)
Is assualt on a pregnant woman in the early stages of her pregnancy resulting in the death of her fetus murder?
Yes and it is the same conclusion that the US Supreme Court reached in addressing Constitutional Rights in Roe v Wade.
No, it is aggravated assault and battery of the woman. Since a fetus has not been born it has no inalienable Rights such as the Right to Life and therefore it cannot be murdered.
No cerebral cortex.....no rights that supercede the host. Same goes for people in vegetative states....if there is no sentience.....no right to remain cared for by others, unless the would be caretakers want to.
When women are considering an abortion....socially conservative christians forget all about being pro life where she is concerned
This is false as the "fetal homicide laws" are similiar to "hate crime" laws where the only difference is in the sentencing. The assault and battery of the woman is the actual crime being committed. The imposition of additional sentencing is because of the effect of the loss of the fetus to the woman. It could be compared to additional sentencing if the woman lost an arm because of an assault. Under the law a fetus is not considered to be a human being but instead is considered to the a "potential" human being based upon all court decisions. If a fetus was a "human being" it would qualify as a dependent child for IRS tax deductions for example. Because a fetus is not considered to be an independent person then it cannot have crimes committed against it.
Actually it is a separate count from the assault of the mother, and also a seperate HOMICIDE. Look up the Scott Peterson case! This is an outright lie. Many fetal homicide laws specifically define a fetus as a person and a human being. Read and weep.: "Ark. Stat. Ann. § 5-1-102(13) defines "person," as used in § 5-10-101 through § 5-10-105, to include an unborn child in utero at any stage of development" "Ga. Code Ann. § 52-7-12.3 defines the term "unborn child" to mean a member of the species Homo sapien at any stage of development who is carried in the womb." "Kan. Stat. Ann. § 21-3452 "Alexa's Law" defines "unborn child" as a living individual organism of the species homo sapiens, in utero, at any stage of gestation from fertilization to birth" "Tex. Penal Code Ann. § 1.07 relates to the death of or injury to an unborn child and provides penalties. The law defines an individual as a human being who is alive, including an unborn child at every stage of gestation from fertilization until birth." "Ala. Code § 13A-6-1 (2006) defines "person," for the purpose of criminal homicide or assaults, to include an unborn child in utero at any stage of development, regardless of viability ... And there are others! http://www.ncsl.org/IssuesResearch/Health/FetalHomicideLaws/tabid/14386/Default.aspx
I have to agree. What "pro-lifers" forget is that the woman has the inalienable Right of Sovereignty and they would willingly violate that Right. The choose to give "rights" to a fetus that has no inalienable Rights as it is not an individual sovereign person while denying rights to the woman that has already gained those rights of sovereignty by birth. No rights exist prior to birth.
Well that really isn't true. Fetal homicide laws are a second count...here is a recent case of this happening. http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/131474433.html Woman is charged with 2 counts of murder...one of those counts being for the killing of an unborn child. Now if you are going to charge someone with the murder of an unborn child you are granting that child certain "inalienable" rights...such as the right to life. This sort of flies in the face of the "no rights exist before birth" mentality.
How can a fetus be killed without assault and battery of the woman? These are State laws of dubious Constitutionality. Not a single US Supreme Court decision refers to a fetus as a child nor does any federal law recognize a fetus as a person. As we're well aware the States often pass unconsitutional laws while the Federal government, under the US Constitution, is mandated with protecting the inalienable Rights of the Individual even when they are not enumerated (re: 9th Amendment).
No it's not. Christian social conservatives think a fetus has more right to life than a mother who's life could be threatened by being forced legally to carry a fetus to birth
It isn't a clarification as it is incorrect as proven in my above link. Fetal homicide is a seperate charge that carries the same weight as regular homicide in most states.
You miss the point that in denying a woman an abortion you are not denying her basic human rights. By denying a child in utero protection from premeditated homicide, you are denying him/her basic human rights. AGAIN denying someone the right to commit premeditated homicide is NOT infringing upon their rights!!!
A perfectly irrelevant point. They actually are not! They are perfectly constitutional and none are being challenged. They contain senseless exceptions for abortion to avoid the challenge, but those exceptions are illogical.
Another dubious lie!!! From a federal law: "is a United States law which recognizes a "child in utero" as a legal victim, if he or she is injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".[1]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act Pro abortion folks are on the wrong side of the law in all of their arguments!!!
