Is Jesus the Messiah? Rabbi Tovia Singer Debate vs Rev Samuel Green

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Was Jesus Messiah the Passover Lamb who set the stage for a latter day "goat for Azazel?"

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  3. I think this is the stupidest question that I have ever heard in my life!!!!!!!!???

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  4. Do you mean that the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex must be built??!!

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am listening to this debate right now.....
    so I don't know just yet how well Rev Samuel Green does in this debate but......

    ... I have an angle on this topic that I am pretty sure that Rev Samuel Green will NOT go into...... that I will go into.

    If we look at Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus as Messiah the Passover Lamb who set the stage for a latter day "goat for Azazel" THEN... we will have set up nine point four million Israelis and all Jews worldwide to look at what Rabbi Yeshua accomplished in an entirely new light.



    Is Jesus the Messiah? Rabbi Tovia Singer Debate vs Rev. Samuel Green in Sydney Australia!



    This will give you an idea of how important I personally think that the question of a modern Moshiach be Ephrayim.... Messiah son of Joseph.... who will build the Jewish people at least one..... if not even two....... temples!!!!!!?????

    Could the Ezekiel Temple stop the Great Tribulation?

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    Could the Ezekiel Temple Complex end The Great Tribulation?
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    3. Perhaps... and I sure do hope so!!!!
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    4. No... this would lead to another Middle East war and increased tensions in the Middle East.
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    DOES PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP HAVE THE COURAGE........
    AND THE UNDERSTANDING TO TRY TO THE ABSOLUTE BEST OF HIS ABILITY TO
    CONSTRUCT FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE AT LEAST ONE IF NOT EVEN TWO.........

    JEWISH TEMPLES???????????

    I BELIEVE THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS YES........ I BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP WOULD
    RISK HIS LIFE......... and I believe that his children and grandchildren would back him up and risk their lives.........

    as President Donald J. Trump in a sense put forward his audition for the role of Moshiach ben Ephrayim!!!!!!

    Should Israel crown Donald J. Trump as Moshiach ben Ephrayim?

    Rumour has it that from 2017 to January of 2021.....
    President Donald J. Trump went up against the people who near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava calls the Eruv Rav..... basically they are the owners of BigMedia.... BigOil....BigBanking.... and yes.... BigGovernment.......



     
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    Rabbi Tovia Singer is a brilliant diplomat.......
    he knows and admits that the Christian people in his audience are sincere........ and they love the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - Y a c o b ......
    and many of them may find the following understanding of Isaiah chapter forty five somewhat new and challenging.......

    Personally I have been introduced to the idea of a mere human fulfilling Isaiah chapter forty five when I was in my teenage years back in the 1970's.......

    My apologies for the lack of political correctness of this near death experiencer from Uganda......
    personally... I love how he explains this topic with such simplicity and clarity and total lack of political correctness!


    The Christian Political Cyrus / The Audition and President Donald J. Trump.



    I love how Rabbi Tovia Singer is saying that we must look at the books of Isaiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel to understand the Jewish Messiah.......
    he is correct......
    and the key may be a latter day merely human Christian Political CYRUS who builds the Jewish people at least one.... if not even two temple complexes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Isaiah

    45 Thus saith the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

    2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:

    3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

    4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

    5 I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

    6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else.

    7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

    8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousnes


    9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?

    10 Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth?

    11 Thus saith the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.

    12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

    13 I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the Lord of hosts.

    14 Thus saith the Lord, The labour of Egypt, and merchandise of Ethiopia and of the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over unto thee, and they shall be thine: they shall come after thee; in chains they shall come over, and they shall fall down unto thee, they shall make supplication unto thee, saying, Surely God is in thee; and there is none else, there is no God.

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    Rabbi Tovia Singer dwells a lot on the idea that a human cannot be a sacrifice for another humans......
    but I think that there is more to this question.........
    because former Atheist Howard Storm was shown something about the background to The Holocaust of the Nazi era..... that is relevant.....


    In a way........
    the divisions between Joseph and Judah and Levi and all twelve tribes of Israel.......
    led to The Holocaust of the Nazi Era..........

    and....... to the degree that Christians exaggerate their arguments..... and Jewish Rabbi's exaggerate their arguments........
    tends to lead to pogrom after holocaust after pogrom after holocaust.... because......

    once the twelve tribes are united and restored and are able to agree on some simple ideas and goals.......
    then voila......
    the probability of Hamas and Hezbollah and modern Nazis and Russian Atheists being able to organize more and worse Holocausts and pogroms...... IS DECREASED!!!!!!!

    The Holocaust of the Nazi era to a degree.....
    was the result of faulty ideas and arguments.... even by biased Rabbi's who could not visualize Rabbi Yeshua as being a metaphorical Passover Lamb... who set the stage for a modern day "goat for Azazel"... and there may be many of us!!!!!!
     
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    "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." [Hosea 4:6]

    Are the people of YHWH... the Jews destroyed for lack of knowledge??????
    I believe that the answer is YES!!!!!!

    Are the people of YHWH.... the Christians.... destroyed for lack of knowledge?????????

    I believe that the answer is YES!!!!!!!


    Are the people of YHWH... the Muslims... destroyed for a lack of knowledge????????

    I believe that the answer is YES!!!!!!!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...sident-donald-j-trump.603660/#post-1073716224

    The Christian Political Cyrus / The Audition and President Donald J. Trump.





    Alll of this relates back to......

    The Tate Plan for Shalom in the Middle East!


    and....
    all of this will make sense out of what was shown to Mark Taylor back in 2011.....


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...moshiach-ben-ephrayim.587238/#post-1072586781






     
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    Could a metaphorical "goat for Azazel" be compared with the serpent in the path who will be a leader of the TRIBE OF DAN??????


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    I personally am striving to metaphorical kill the old man... Dennis Tate...... and set in motion a new man Dennis Tate who is truly led and guided and burned up, [metaphoricall speaking] by the Holy Spirit.... The Ruach ha Kodesh..... of Judaism...........


    but...... I believe in the prediction by the gifted Mr. Mark Taylor regarding the next ten years for America..... and Israel......
    .......

    The Palestinians are being PLAYED BY BRILLIANT RUSSIAN ATHEISTS WHO ARE STILL FOLLOWING SOMETHING THAT WAS SET IN MOTION BY PRESIDENT YURY ANDROPOV BACK IN THE 1970'S!!!!!!!
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    ..... "According to Ion Mihai Pacepa, “In 1972, the Kremlin decided to turn the whole Islamic world against Israel and the U.S. As KGB chairman Yury Andropov … [said], a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on America than could a few millions. We needed to instill Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon … against Israel and its main supporter, the United States.” [Russia and its influence on Middle East Terrorism]...
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    Mr. Mark Taylor :
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    A TRUE MUSLIM.....
    who actually wants to obey the Koran.....

    will soon realize that obeying Atheists in Russia or Romania might not be the best way to understand their own Islamic scriptures???????

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