Is King David raised up for the Jewish people decades before Jesus returns?

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  1. Never Left

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    There are no contricictions in Christian Doctrine. What makes these people more special than Paul the Apostle who said that he saw such wonders that he could not tell because it would be unlawful? God's time an timing are mysteries which I will understand when I am with him and my understanding is complete. I will have all eternity to learn it and it will be but a moment. Buck Stephens does not say anything that reading Thessalonians would not teach you, so the Lord gave him nothing, he only adds some eastern mysticism sounding useless hyperbole.
     
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    Wow!!!!!!!!!

    Sir, I actually agree with you!!!!!!!!

    Well, right up to the place where you say that Buck Stephens article is "useless hyperbole!"


    http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Cr&c=12&v=1&t=KJV#top

    I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
    And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)
    How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."


    In another discussion forum I used this verse to introduce a segment about what was going on behind the scenes during the Holocaust that was shown to former atheist Howard STorm during his NDE!


     
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    How does that build your faith. It does nothing for mine. I do not believe that NDE is real spiritual experiences that we can rely on. God has revealed himself in scripture, the rest is useless and should be ignored.
     
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    If our only motivation is our own spiritual condition.......then you may be right......but my daughter absolutely loved each and every near death experience that I read to her so far.

    I started her off with the ones with animals but she loves the Howard Storm NDE as well...…

    http://www.near-death.com/storm.html


    She even likes watching various YouTube videos that he is in!
     
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    King David was just another of the Hyksos Pharaohs of Egypt.
    http://www.johnkaminski.info/pages/whats_that_ticking_sound/just_another_hebrew_pharaoh.htm

    http://www.edfu-books.com/sheba.html

    The Egyptian House of David

    "If King Solomon is to be properly identified as an adaptation of the Pharaoh Amenhotep III, then the source of his predecessor, King David, should also be found in Egypt. Consistent with this premise, Osman has compared the account in the Bible of David and his wars with the exploits of Amenhotep III's great grandfather, the 18th Dynasty Pharaoh Thutmose III.(1) Not only are their achievements equivalent, but so are their very names."
    http://www.domainofman.com/ankhemmaat/david.html
     
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    The Jews never did have an independent kingdom. They were always someone's flunkies. http://www.science.co.il/Maps-Near-East-Empires.asp
     
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    There's serious doubt that David was ever more than a myth. There's less evidence for his actual existence than for Jesus.
     
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    The Jews swear by David. He's the best thing since manna.
     
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    I read that since they had no history of their own they invented it basing many of their Kings on the lives of the Pharaohs. Also to be noted that it seems that Abraham was not a Jew, but a gentile. Therefore the Jews were never Semites. Then we could get into the whole Khazaria thing.

    http://committedtotruth.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/question-was-abraham-a-gentile-or-a-jew/
    http://www.texemarrs.com/042013/jews_not_descendants_of_abraham.htm

    They may have been someone's flunkies, but they have been making up for it big time.
     
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    To be a Semite is to be a descendant of Shem. Abraham was, therefore a Semite. Strictly speaking, Jews are descendants of Judah, one of the 12 sons of Jacob and the grandson of Abraham through Isaac. Thus all Jews are Semites, but not all Semites are Jews. Non-Jewish Semites, among many others, include Arabs who are descendants of Abraham through Ishmael.
     
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    and bibi is from what?

    how about the chinese?

    japanese?

    dirty knees?

    look at these


    (') (')
     
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    And I personally suffer from the possible delusion of grandeur that I might be partly descended from one of the lost tribes of Israel. That is largely due to the scholarship of Orthodox Jewish historian Yair Davidiy:


    http://www.britam.org/messiah.html



     
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    Well.......three year old Colton Burpo.......during his near death experience was shown King David, Samson, cousin John/Yohannan the baptizer, his mom Mary/Myriam as well as his white horse?????!!!!!

    Not everybody gets to be right up there with Messiah Jesus/Yeshua.....but King David sure is........being that close to the one to whom all judgment has been committed must count for something?????!!!!


    http://www.cbn.com/tv/2020852576001
    Father And Son Remember Heavenly Experience
    While Todd Burpo thought his son was dying, Colton was actually experiencing heaven. Hear their first-hand account of the experience.
     
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    Is there anything some people won't believe?
     
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    Imagine yourself as a blob of fundamental energy who has existed from eternity.........not merely for trillions and trillions of years but eternity.....imagine that you have planned, engineered and worked out an infinite number of Big Bang events over infinite time in the past.......You want to share life with "OTHERS" so you create some others........they spin off into trouble with envy, jealousy, lust and other emotions.....so you set up a plan to "restore' them to a heavenly/loving state of mind.......How do you go about it if you happen to be composed of energy that operates AT SOME TRILLION TIMES AS MUCH ENERGY AS CAN BE ATTAINED IN THE MOST UP TO DATE PARTICLE ACCELERATOR!!!!????

    http://www.carbonbias.blogspot.ca

     
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    Bishadi......you have made some interesting statements these past few weeks.

    Do you identify yourself with the Cyrus type who will rebuild the Jerusalem Third Temple complex????

    If so there is an intriguing article by a man from Uganda that may inspire you!


     
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    like what?

    I did confirm that science is evolving beyond belief. Is that the one?
    jerusalem is the 'gate of god' (babilu) to idiots. That is the place that the 3 horns are rooted (3 religions of abraham), it will be destroyed. Dan 7;8



    The name of god (math defining the process of the trinity), is what I alone have 'upon the head' and that sion, will be in taos (lake of reflections) by my choice, not any other.

    That house of knowledge (sion) is simply where the combining of the 12 (4 colors of mankind, 3 from each), is what I require before I release the name.

    i aint conforming to what people want, like, expect or to meet any prophecy. I will do what i find good and what the prophecies represent, is what 'the prophets' saw (visions, entanglement is how that works and quite natural (deja vu)).

    For example: that image of a guy that many represent, that is on a cross with the long hair and goatee, aint the image (vision) of jesus.


    Ok
     
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    i didnt find it interesting

    i will point out that any against truth are anti christ. There is no 'person' that is 'the' antichrist, but that 'truth' identifies or purely enables each to see the liars. (all against truth; antichrist)
     
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    Quite intriguing Bishadi!

    I had thought that perhaps you would identify with the Cyrus prophecies of Isaiah 45, 46......OK.....so I was wrong??????!!!

    Sorry.....

    http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=45&v=1&t=KJV#top
    Isa 45:1



    Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
     
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    Interesting...........but there is a person coming who I suspect will do something similar .......but certainly not identical to the actions of Antiochus.........…

    You are correct though.......many of us worry far far far too much about that specific person......to the point where our fears delay us in doing what needs to be done to usher in the real era of Moshiach!!!
     
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    A second form of scripture is all of creation. The concept of reincarnation in some form is certainly indicated in many of the ways that nature works!!!

    It also may be implied in the fact that G-d even wrote the ten commandments.....on both sides of those stone tablets!!!!
     
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    Never Left….. do you believe that the G-d of Abraham/ HaShem/ YHWH…. has the ability to restore the "lost tribes of Israel?"

    http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...-expelled-judaea-after-bar-kochba-revolt.html
    Are the Palestinians the Jews NOT expelled from Judaea after Bar Kochba Revolt?
    Because Orthodox Jewish scholars firmly believe in the restoration of the lost tribes of Israel this new genetic research that indicates that the Palestinians are "Jewish" may play a significant role in genuine peace coming between Israelis and Palestinians!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai


    http://www.drbo.org/chapter/26048.htm
     
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    That's the Biblical version. Cyrus says quite clearly that it is his god, Marduk, that he follows and who has given him instructions. Look at his own words on the Cyrus Cylinder.

    As to the letter from some African 'minister'. It is so ambiguous that it is hard to take it seriously. Certainly not worth taking seriously.
    Jonah was written long after the supposed events took place, and if you study it you can see why. It is a story, meant to be miraculous and legendary. That deals with 777.

    Cyrus, as I've already said, worshipped Marduk, a fact that he admits to. Cyrus is believed to be the first 'human rights' Emperor.
    When Jews and Christians say god told Cyrus to let the Israelites go and build their Temple, they forget to remind us that Cyrus let all captured nations go back to their own lands - maybe to rebuild their temples.
    They were still under Cyrus, who placed a 'Satrap' in their lands to watch over things, but they mainly went back to their old lives.
    So Cyrus let the Jews build their temple and other nations if they needed to. Not just the Jewish 'saviour' then. Exit 555.

    Lets look at Manasseh. The anti-christ forerunner. 666. The earliest piece of Revelation we have gives the number as 616. Papyrus 115
    Another codex around the same time has it written in full Greek letters six hundred and sixteen.
    A writer whose name I can't remember wrote that Ireneaus knew about 616 but ignored it, while a later church father left 616 in. So at least we can put 666/616 as doubtful.

    And with that I'm going to watch a programme on TV.
     
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    I didn't say that I thought that everything about Mr. Eporu Ronald's article was perfect…. just that it was the best job of taking Isaiah 45 and applying it to our time period that I have ever read in my life….. which it is!

    Two years that jump at me as being potentially significant for the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third TEmple and at least the beginning of the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapters 40 to 48 are 2030…… two metaphorical days/ 2000 years from the death, burial and resurrection of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus……. and also 2070…. two thousand years from the destruction of the Second Jerusalem Temple.

    The statements by President Obama's half brother are intriguing indeed……. in my opinion….. perhaps inspired?!

    But yes…. I might just be reading a little too much into all this???!
     
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    By far the most important way for the Jewish people to look for and find King David….. is within each of their own hearts and minds.

    In a sense……. King David is rising up within Mr. Malik Obama. I do believe what he has stated is inspired…… and gives all of us an option….. a choice…… We of course are free to reject……… accept……. or ignore…… the choice that each of us now faces.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...obama-one-worlds-most-courageous-muslims.html
    Is Malik Obama one of the worlds' most courageous Muslims?
    In my opinion.....YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


    Obama’s Brother in Support of Third Temple Built in Jerusalem

    …
    endtimeheadlines.org/temple-mount/obamas-brother-in-support-of-third-temple-built-in-jerusalem/
     

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