Is Malik Obama one of the worlds' most courageous Muslims?

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    true enough, but basing it on history is kind of disingenuous. Muslims have been at it since they started conquering the Mediterranean area and haven't stopped. They have only upgraded their methods through technology. Al Jazeera? Internet? They are advancing through brutality. They do want to control the world and will not stop their methods because we tell them to.
    Yes, Christianity has caused a lot of grief, but, today, they are a bit more peaceful. However, Islam has only bumped up their methods and activities.
    The more tolerant we become, the better their chances are for achieving their goal, which is total domination through fear and death.
    Convert or die!!!!!
     
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    Margot2's statements confuse me also at times….. but my impression is that she looks forward to a much better world……… all over the world………. Islam actually clearly teaches that in the latter days the Jewish people would return to their ancient homeland….. and Muslims such as Mr. Malik Obama even go so far as to recognize that every word in Ezekiel chapter 40 - 48 must be fulfilled……………

    http://www.templemount.org/quranland.html
    THE QUR'AN SAYS THAT ALLAH GAVE THE LAND OF ISRAEL TO THE JEWS
    AND WILL RESTORE THEM TO IT AT THE END OF DAYS
     
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    Yes….. there is certainly an influential segment of Muslims who believe just as fully in the value of ethnic cleansing as many Christian aristocrats did two or three or four centuries ago.

    But my major point is that we in the western democracies can have a positive effect on the flavour of Islam that dominates if we support and encourage courageous Muslims such as Mr. Malik Obama and Shaykh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi.

    I personally have been studying near death experience accounts since 1990 and I do actually believe that the Patriarch Abraham would very likely say to the Prophet Muhammad during his out of the body experience…."Good son and good prophet." In order to assist the Islamic world to transition in a similar way to how Christianity has done in the last century or two we need to be aware of both the positive as well as the negative.

    My apologies if I am wrong but I am sure that this article by Kevin Williams can play a significant role in assisting the Islamic nations to come out of darkness- hate- fear- paranoia into light - love and real faith….. even if they use different technical jargon to describe what is happening?!

    http://www.near-death.com/muslim.html
    The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) taught clearly that he was not the Jewish Messiah…. but that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was…… he said that he was a prophet….. and I suspect that all of these people who have one of these near death experiences or out of the body experiences and meet a being of light who reviews their lives with them…. could be termed…."prophets." Prophets are still free to sin though even after meeting HaShem/ The G-d of Abraham/ Allah…. and my belief is that all of them did…. with the exception of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus!
     
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    Well...… what his big brother is doing sure fits with an intriguing prediction by a gifted Rabbi.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/381229-jesus-returns-2017-a.html

    Jesus returns in 2017,,,,


     
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    Yes..... and events in France a week or so ago verify your statements but......… my wife introduced me to an interesting movement of Christians who seem to be genuinely gifted..... and one of them predicted a major shift in the spiritual atmosphere in the Islamic world.....


     
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    Speaking of "more capable weapons" the guy who does this film presents evidence that the Jordanians brought a very powerful electronic device to the Temple Mount only days before a major UFO event there?

    Could they have planned to blow up the Temple Mount and thus prevent Ezekiel chapters 40 to 48 from happening?

    Did a higher technology than we are used to intervene?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlT7u1Q5uWQ

    Published on May 10, 2014


     
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    I got into some interesting debates on a truly interesting Facebook group these past few days........ I quoted the link to this discussion there....... and noticed that I had never added the prediction by a man from Uganda regarding the idea of the G-d of
    Abraham/ YHWH/ Allah raising up a modern Cyrus type of political leader.........… in the near future........

     
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    There is that.... but can you imagine how much tourism revenue would go to the State of Israel when the Jerusalem Third Temple is restored and operational???????????


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=341905&page=22&p=1065200211#post1065200211
     
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    I admit that this is an unusual subject....... but isn't it kind of encouraging to see a significant Islamic leader risking his life to stick up for the fulfillment of predictions that relate so directly to the Orthodox Jewish community?

    I just read something else that helps to make sense out of why Mr. Malik Obama would feel so powerfully about this........... that he would risk his life........ and the lives of his family............. because obviously many Muslims will disagree with him..........

    http://www.near-death.com/religion/islam.html

    When you look at the flavour of the meeting in the higher dimensions of space - time between the soul - spirit of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) with Aaron and Moses...... it makes sense that the followers of Islam........ should have a positive belief in the fulfillment of the predictions of Moses and the application of the Levitical laws as given through Moses.
     
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    Malik is just an opportunist.
     
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    He is only human........ and I suppose perhaps 5% or more of his motivation might be to attempt to compete with his baby brother........ and attempt to accomplish something huge with his life................. If his little brother had not attained the office of President of the USA perhaps he would have felt less motivated to get into such a controversial topic but........... the more that I read about Islam the more I tend to believe that an accurate understanding of the Koran would fit extremely well with the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48?!

    We Christians might just be able to learn a few important lessons from his act of courage......... even if his motivation was not one hundred percent perfect?!

    Luke 24:25
    'Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:"
     
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    He's not brave or educated.. He's attention seeking... I think he's a perfect creep.
     
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    Margot2...... I have the impression that you might just be a card carrying, full fledged member of America's Democratic Party?

    Perhaps not, but I personally am a member of Canada's Liberal Party, and you write like somebody who is extremely interested in politics, to the point where you perhaps go to Democratic Party meetings.

    Let's notice the first paragraph of that article..................


    http://endtimeheadlines.org/2014/04/obamas-brother-in-support-of-third-temple-built-in-jerusalem/

    For Mr. Malik Obama (a Muslim), to hang around with any Christian leader........ and study what he writes on at least one major topic/ proposal............... is taking a considerable risk....... His hanging around with Mr. Yisrael Hawkins........ leader of......

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Yahweh
    Margot2....... The Worldwide Church of God is the same church that I was a member of from the late '70's until 1991.

    Margot2.... I got myself kicked out of the WWCG as well as the Philadelphia Church of God..... (an offshoot of the WWCG), back in 1991, so can you imagine what it would feel like for you...... to be kicked completely out of the Democratic Party....... (if my feeling that you are active in the Party is at all accurate?)

    Mr. Malik Obama is taking a big risk to associate with Mr. Yisrael Hawkins............... what are the most logical reasons for him to do this?

    On that note...... I may send The House of Yahweh a copy of this message........ and although this idea will tend to offend them at first........ the basic idea may grow on them...... and they might just be able to accomplishing something extremely positive with this idea:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...mageddon-could-bring-world-out-recession.html
    Artistic Hollywood style "Armageddon" could bring world out of recession?!

    ...A serious attempt to replicate "Armageddon" would create a minimum of two hundred million jobs in China, India, Russia and Mongolia alone....... not to mention the number of jobs this would generate in Israel and the surrounding nations.




    Revelation 9:16


    "And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them."

    China now holds so many American dollars that any possible way to cooperate at a higher level seems to be worthy of consideration.

    One of the "stages" is the Jerusalem Third Temple complex. Without conflict a film is boring and we all know that lots of conflict surrounds the idea of rebuilding the Third Temple. Two logical years for this to happen are 2030 (only fifteen years in the future) and also 2070.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...mageddon-could-bring-world-out-recession.html

    Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple may be least expensive way to stabilize climate?
     
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    Since he was first chosen, the twice-popularly-elected metza metza President has kept the flustered Angry White Guys indulging in their crackpot conspiracy theories beginning with their delightful "Birther" derangement and running the goofy gambit form madrasa-indoctrinated islamist/devout disciple of a radical Christian minister, from intimate of 60s radicals at age eight to the establishment elite's toady, through socialist firebrand hellbent on unleashing global capitalism.

    Who knew those African witch doctors were such multitaskers?
     
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    So far there has been little investment in desalination in Jordan.. Its a very poor country........... and they still have a serious water problem.
     
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    Excuse me??? I am not a Democrat.. and have never belonged to the Democratic party..

    I am just unimpressed with flakey New Age BS.
     
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    One of my primary points is that when somebody belongs to a group for a long time, you really get emotionally attached to that group, especially to a group of close friends within that organization.

    Mr. Malik Obama..... by hanging around with Mr. Yisrael Hawkins......... would automatically anger many people within his favourite Mosque. Some might agree with him..... but many would be offended.

    The fact that he is coming close to behaviour that will get him black listed among a significant percentage of Muslims........... is evidence that he is very serious about this and has "counted the cost"...... knows that the cost could be extremely high.... but he has been willing to take that risk. One of the most probable reasons why he would do this....... is similar to how and why former fundamentalist Christian and near death experiencer Kevin Williams, came to the place over years where he could write the article that I quote here in the opening post:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...d-son-good-prophet-prophet-muhammad-pbuh.html

    I believe Abraham said "good son and good Prophet" to The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
    If more Christian Mystics and even some Jewish Mystics will begin to discuss the theory that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was in many ways a Prophet Like Unto Moses as well as perhaps King David or Elijah or the Patriarch Abraham reincarnated........ then peace will soon break out in the Middle East!!!!!!!!!


    3. The Prophet Muhammad's Journey to Heaven


    http://www.near-death.com/muslim.html

    We are all human...... to some degree I suppose we all seek some extra attention......... but an act as extreme as Mr. Malik Obama has taken is unlikely to have been mostly motivated by a desire for a greater level of fame. I believe that he is to a significant degree being stirred up by the Holy Spirit.... and what he accomplished by his public statements.......... are indeed important and will play a role in whatever it is that is being worked out in Jerusalem over the next two to thirty decades!
     
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    People realized in 2013 that they made a HUGE mistake. Hence why George Dubya Bush has a better approval rating than Obama.

    Oh wait, it's probably like that because everyone is racist again and white people want slavery back. Ammi-right?
     
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    If we will begin to look at debt itself.... and money itself....... differently............ the stage can be set to turn Jordan largely green...... as an example to all of the Middle East of what can happen when the basic way of peace is chosen over war.


    http://www.progressivestoday.com/seattle-mayor-wants-interest-free-housing-muslims/

    Seattle Mayor Wants Interest Free Housing For Muslims
    Interest free housing for Muslims could set a precedent that eventually comes to transform the lives of the majority of Americans and Canadians.

    ...."From 1940 to 1970 the Government of Canada put roughly half of the total money supply into the economy through loans issued through the federally owned Bank of Canada. Provincial and municipal governments could borrow the money to build roads, schools, hospitals and sewage treatment facilities at zero or one percent interest. In 1970 we changed our system and since that time a higher and higher percentage of all government debt is financed through loans issued through privately owned banks. At this time it is ninety eight percent. This policy may be great for our banking sector but it was estimated that in the one year of 1995 alone our federal government could have saved roughly SIXTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in interest payments if we had gone back to creating half the total money supply through these low interest rate loans issued through the bank that is OWNED BY ALL CANADIANS.

    Considering that our deficit was approximately thirty billion dollars for that year, simply by changing back to an already proven monetary and banking system, we could theoretically have had a FEDERAL BUDGET SURPLUS OF THIRTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in 1995.

    The massive cutbacks in the Canadian military, in health care, highway construction, social programs and education were profoundly affected by these accounting practices?"
    http://www.bankingsystemflaws.blogspot.ca/
     
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    Can't really blame him with the US government supporting him.

    Like back when the IRS was delaying and denying tax-exempt status to Conservative groups...
    Malik's charity was "fast tracked".. and... given 3 years retroactive tax-exempt status.
    Even though he was operating that charity illegally those 3 years.

    So if he's an opportunist... what would you call those who are encouraging him to be ?

    "Liberals" ?

    "Family" ?
     
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    Actually, Obama's current assessment remains a typical 46% approval/48% disapproval, quite steady over time.
    (It was 46% approval/45% disapprove for 7/20-22/13.)


    The Bush's assessment at the same stage of his tenure (7/12-15/07) was 31% approval/ 63% disapproval.

    Will Obama's numbers also rise after he has been out of office for a while? If he follows the typical pattern of most ex-presidents, yes, but there is no way of knowing until we get there.
     
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    What does Bush's past have to do with now? He's still got a better approval rating than Obama, right now. Why do the dems live in the past. Do you have a time machine? Obama is worse than Dubya, lol
     
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    No more nor less that will Obama's numbers when he has been out of office for as many years as Bush.

    Why do you need to draw a false parallel by pretending that the Bush is still president like Obama is?

    Comparing ex-presidents like Washington, Fillmore or Bush to an incumbent makes no sense, although you can legitimately compare them to one another.

    Will Obama's numbers rise, as is usually the case, stay the same, or fall when he is also an ex-president? Who knows.
     
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    Sure, people compare ex president's all the time. CNN compared Lincoln and Obama. CNN also compared DDE to Bush back in the mid 2000s.

    Stop whining. Obama's so bad he can't even outdo Dubya.
     
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    If it makes you feel good, you can compare retrospective assessments of Bush and Nixon if you wish.

    Both are ex-presidents.
     

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