Is Replacing Khaddafi with a Jihadist Government A Good Use of Taxpayer Dollars?

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    We saw it happen in Iran. Jimmy Carter helped destablize the Shah and he was replaced with an Islamic theocracy led by the Ayotollah Khomeni.

    Will Libya go down the same road? Will America's billions spent on the NATO bombings end up putting an al Quada aligned government in power?

    And if that happens, what's the plan? Will Obama send in troops to depose that government?

    And let us not forget that this war is illegal because the lawless Obama administration never got Congressional approval.
     
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    Bill Gertz ought to know better than to repeat what is posted on a few internet sites.

    Khadafi was very paranoid.. He thought Osama Bin Laden was going to take over North Africa and that the French Foreign Legion was on the ground.
     
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    Personally, I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) who runs Libya. We should have stayed out of this mess and use our money for something more useful -- like paying down our $15 trillion debt.
     
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    Why support nations like France, Italy, and Great Britain in an attempt to re-institute their Colonial Empires. Why? We should learn from history, not repeat it.
     
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    The oil companies in Libya are TOTAL, ENI, BP, Dutch Shell, Occidental, Conoco Phillips, Marathon, Hess..

    This has NOTHING to do with "colonial empires"...
     
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    Right. Ok, so if they go in for oil it is ok. I see. And it's not like they are making it a Colony or anything, just exploiting it like one.
     
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    The oil companies make capital investment in pipelines, GOSPS, refineries, port facilities and begin paying Libya 50 to 70 % in revenue PER BARREL.

    Libya needs the revenue to rebuild and they also have Khadafi's assets.

    The premise of this thread is ignorant BS.

    US money won't be rebuilding Libya.
     
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    Alright, lets say it wont. But you don't believe that Europe wants to exploit Libya? It's their modus operandi. It's hard to wash away 200-300 years of Imperialism.
     
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    The British model DIED in Iraq and Iran in the 1970 because they didn't follow the American model and do a 50-50 split.
     
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    Is there a reason you are using bold? Or is it simply because you do not believe I can see what you are typing? I understand what you are saying, I'm saying your not looking at historical precedent.

    I'm enjoying this discourse and hope you are too. I'm not offending you am I?
     
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    France and Italy can't exploit Libyan oil.. Libya would simply nationalize the oil industry again.

    I know all about historical precedent.. My family was with Esso Libya.

    The concession agreements call for revenue sharing... and Libya is a member of OPEC.
     
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    So you do not believe France/Italy would send a 'peace' keeping force to Libya? Or ask for revenue?
     
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    They won't send peacekeepers to Libya..

    What do you mean ASK for revenue?

    TOTAL and ENI are French and Italian companies with concessions and revenue sharing agreements already in place.

    They all just need to get back to work.. The refineries in Marsa Brega and Ras Launuf aren't damaged.. so it shouldn't be that big a deal.

    All the oil companies I listed above have huge investments in Libya.. They want to get back to work.. Libya wants them to get back to work and ... remember... THE OIL BUSINESS HATES A WAR ZONE.
     
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    Demand revenue. Or make it a puppet regime. You can not see this happening?
     
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    TOTAL EARNS revenue in Libya and splits it with the Libyans..

    Puppet regime won't work.. Those days are effectively over. Khadafi wasn't a puppet.. The Shah was a puppet who allowed the UK to give him 13% of oil revenues when everyone else was getting 50%.

    Karzai is a puppet.

    You simply can't "control" Libya with occupation troops.. Oil production would be dead as a post and sabotage would be rampant... Look at Iraq..
     

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