Is Ron Paul the Right's best chance at a win in '12?

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  1. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really, it would be like the Dating Game. It would still be up to the people to sniff out those who are full of crap, but would provide a lot less distractions while they do so.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    Disdain for the constitution- typical of the phony right.
     
  3. Shangrila

    Shangrila staff Past Donor

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    So does the delusion of those who call themselves Conservatives. Selective constitutional application, less liberal Gov but more RINO Gov, seems that story of the day.
     
  4. MnBillyBoy

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    No ..selective constitutional morality..Paul CANNOT distance himself of the fact he votes NO..( Dr. No..cute lil name..) on every ones earmarks but his own..

    HE OWNS THAT..just as Romney gets credit and blame for Mass. health care law.
    Undeniable truths..cannot be debated.
    You can spin all you want but that IS not constitutional and is a HUGE hypocritical point against Paul.

    Add.. The fact he wants term limits..apparently for everyone else but himself ?
    another say one thing ..do another.

    His end the wars at all cost because it is the constitutional thing to do is BS..

    Then which Libya will he invade next ?...just like the last guy who said the EXACT SAME THING.
    Its too easy to give broad position speeches in congress..THEY NEVER get done when elected to any executive office.
    You know it..I know it and the idiot fleas on my hound dog know it.

    You cannot support something based upon ideas..but not reasonable in reality to implement.
    If he was 20 years younger..had more executive experience in either government or business..such as state governor where WE could see how well he gets executive decisions done..I could support him.

    Many of you are basing your support on hatred of the other 2 party's..
    The Obama anti establishment vote..and a vote for Paul may just re elect the same guy.split the independent away from Romney.. the conservative democrat..and the centralist Republican vote.
    ADD the fact he didn't support McCain last time..and I see another 12% taken from the Republican party.

    Great ..just enough to give Obama the win..which progressives and libertarians wouldn't mind a single bit.

    Gee ..I wonder why I dont like the fact that PAUL is even in the race.
    A distraction and a waste of REPUBLICAN debate time and space.

    Paul wouldn't even endorse or vote for a Romney/Perry or Pawlenty ticket so why shouldn't I rip him for what he is ..
    another Republican wannabe libertarian.
     
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    Paul supporters won't fall for propaganda, while many Reps fall for smooth words.
    But really, a wannabe Libertarian? If anything, Paul's a haftabe Rep.
     
  6. DA60

    DA60 Banned

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    And the (apparent) obsession continues...

    No links to unbiased sites/facts.

    Just more bile...
     
  7. Jash2o2

    Jash2o2 New Member

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    First thing. Ahahahahahah! We wouldn't mind Obama winning? Ahahahahah! Maybe you really are just a troll.

    I and most of Ron Paul supporters don't base our support on the hatred of the other 2 parties. Any one with the mindset of "as long as its not Obama" probably wouldn't be a Ron Paul supporter. You also say that we detract votes from the others and that we would assure Obama's win. For us, it is people like you that are detracting votes from Ron Paul and it would be your fault if Obama wins. You can say it either way. The fact is that most Ron Paul supporters see one of two options. Ron Paul or Bush/Obama 2.0. The rest aren't the same as Obama but the differences are so minute that they might as well be as insignificant as the differences between Windows Vista Home Basic and Windows Vista Home Premium. You got some differences, but it's the same pile of crap.
     
  8. MnBillyBoy

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    What links to you need..?
    I presented undeniable facts and you know them to be truths.

    The ones to the fleas on my doggie ?

    1. Zero executive political leadership.
    2. Zero executive business leadership.

    Voting No most on earmarks.. except for his own..
    His position on Wars ?
    Term limits.?
    Flip flops on party affiliation to whatever suits HIM best ?
    His past NON support for any republican nominee?

    His age ?
    His inexperience ?

    Every debate..every TV interview is the same..
    It's unconstitutional what every one else does ?

    WHAT WOULD HE DO ?

    You cannot say with any certainty...who he would make his political deals with to lead a nation..he has NO support.
    Other that your 12 % which may be as low as 7 %.
    good luck with that ...
     
  9. Jash2o2

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    I'm going to start using your method.

    Ron Paul will win in 2012. How's that for an undeniable fact? You know it to be true.
     
  10. MnBillyBoy

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    No..that is all Paul..

    TRY ROMNEY / PAWLENTY in 2012

    Bold capitol letters.. maybe with color.. ? :)

    Paul/Johnson 2012
    Puff Puff party of Freedom.
     
  11. DA60

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    How about any?

    But hey...the more unsubstantiated bile you post...the more silly and the more emotionally based your position looks (imo).


    Have a nice day.
     
  12. Technoble

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    IMO, While Paul may not be the best candidate he does have the best chance of beating Obama. He would get most votes from libertarians, take a lot of the liberal votes away from Obama(especially in the black community, based on the sole fact that he wan't to stop the drug war). He would take the extremists from both the left and right side, California, Most of the Military regardless of political affiliation as shown by the donations.
     
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    P.S. This is given that he actually gets the republican nomination, which is possible, but unlikely.
     
  14. MaxGeorgeDicksteinXXXI

    MaxGeorgeDicksteinXXXI New Member

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    Clearly, unequivocally, 100%.

    Certain Gallup and Rasmussen polls say he is the most likely to beat Obama. The news doesn't like to mention that.
     

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