Is Russia Really In A War With the US?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Aleksander Ulyanov, May 11, 2022.

  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They werent ready. Thats when we we're funneling the bulk of the cash into their politics to prop up a govt that was more in league with the west and more opposed to Russia. Russia had done the same thing in reverse rather successfully prior to that, but to reduce tensions. We did it to increase them.
     
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  2. zoom_copter66

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    It's a theory....that's it.

    "Reduce tensions"....by invading Crimea?

    Doesn't sound like reducing anything....same as LDPR? More like ratcheting up?
     
  3. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Odessa Trade Union fire where the neonazis that the west was funding and arming burned 40+ pro-Russia demonstrators alive happened before the invasion of Crimea. Tensions were already up. That was right in the middle of our funding and inciting the regime-reversal.
     
  4. Thedimon

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    Oh, yes, the neo Nazis.
    You missed the news - it’s black magicians now. :lol:
     
  5. zoom_copter66

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    I believe that fire happened in June 2014....Crimea was in March 2014?
     
  6. Condor060

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    I will be more than happy to provide the information you need.
    First (so we don't go down rabbit holes) you will admit you know nothing about Bidens attack on US produced oil.
    You know nothing about his EOs governing US oil production
    You know nothing about the reason for gas price increases.

    So if this is the case, you can simply admit it and I will provide what you need.
    If you won't admit it, then you are just here to BS.
     
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    I missed the part about how Putin is causing inflation in the US.
    Can you explain that?
     
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  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Not to be argumentative but could you cite anything that would indicate the bolded? I've really heard very little about that at all.
     
  9. garyd

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    Just sad. If you'd followed the news at for the last two years you'd know I am correct.
     
  10. Melb_muser

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    It's funny how other countries aren't beating up their leaders as been the cause of inflation. But if it gives you satisfaction to blame all your problems on one man's small head, go for it.

    I think I acknowledged somewhere else that Trump was right about that. Better cling to that victory ;)
     
  11. Hey Now

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    Go for it but please stay the course; many of your posts have issue with focus as their motives are highly questionable IMO. As for knowing 'nothing', that's purely ironic.
     
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    What's really sad is you are unable to provide one link to support the false statement you made in response to the post I made.
     
  13. Condor060

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    I will go for it.
    As soon as you admit
    You know nothing about his EOs governing US oil production
    You know nothing about the reason for gas price increases.
    You know nothing about Bidens attack on US produced oil.
     
  14. Hey Now

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    Ahh, so the post deflection to pure disingenuousness. No proof of course. Too easy to expose true illicit motive.
     
  15. Condor060

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    Nope, I gave you the conditions up front.
    And you ran, just like I knew you would

     
  16. garyd

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    Sadly you didn't because eight years ago Trump hadn't been elected yet.
     
  17. Thedimon

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    And back in February, Trump wasn’t in charge either. So what’s your point? Or did you just feel the urge to blame trump for something?
     
  18. Hey Now

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    Well, when you are left will disingenuous ironic posts like the above, I'll refer you to my second sig for context.
     
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    What ever excuse works for ya
    I gave you the conditions up front so the only one here disingenuous is you.
    It was you who demanded to have links to Bidens failures in US oil production so we don't go down rabbit holes.

    I said I would provide it for you if you want to admit
    You know nothing about Bidens attack on US produced oil.
    You know nothing about his EOs governing US oil production
    You know nothing about the reason for gas price increases.

    But for some strange reason you won't do that.
    Hmmmm, Wonder why.
    If you were being honest you would have had no problem making that admission based on your previous claims.
    Thats why I posted it. And you told me everything I needed to know
     
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    Doubling down on such a lazily constructed straw man post is still doubling down on disingenuous nonsense. It's not something I can offer a solution to, sorry.
     
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    After Crimea fell, we gave them some real military aid.

    We also helped them clean up their act (partly).

    He just talks about in a goofy way.
     
  22. garyd

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    Actually I'm not blaming Trump for anything. The Russia hate by Dems and establishment types that led us to this point is almost entirely a function of the left's insane at this point any belief that Russia got Trump elected and since their every attempt to slap any sort of meaningful punishment on Trump has all but completely failed Russia is where they are going to vent their spleen. Lest Russia does it again.
     
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    You knew the conditions before you answered so this blah blah blah means nothing.
    If you ain't packin the gear, run.
     
  24. Hey Now

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    Still railing against that fake and s****y straw man reach post you created earlier are ya? The above post is a great example^^ of disingenuousness.
     
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    Rhetorically that has some logic, but actually, war with the U.S. is one of the last things Putin wants.
     

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