Is the 'right to bear arms' unlimited?

There's no guarantee they will be supervised in the military either, so what's your point?

 

So I assume that you would say that the drinking age should be lowered to 18 to be logically consistent?

 

The subject of the thread is firearms, stay on topic or get lost.

 

Then why did you respond to my post about alcohol?

 

Would you go lower?

 

I have no idea how we got to this, but it doesn't matter, because 18 year olds, whether they are in the military or not, can buy a gun, just not a handgun. Perhaps you would say that in order to be logically consistent, 18 year olds should be allowed to buy handguns too, not just because they can join the military and go off to war, but that they obviously use handguns in the military.

 

The day after they commit a crime wont show up on an instant back ground check either. Losing qualification to a right is a huge incentive. It’s the same as losing a car license.. It’s the legal person who supports the proliferation of guns to criminals by not requiring they support a BC check by the buyer. It’s not a criminal activity that stats this ball rolling from legal sales to the black market.

 

Yes, I know young people well under that age who have the maturity and responsibility to safely own and operate firearms.

Likewise I also know people well over the age of 21 who are so immature they scare the crap out of me and should never be allowed near a screwdriver nor less a firearm.

 

I'm not seeing how a "firearm carry license should be PROOF OF A BACKGROUND CHECK." I mean, sure it would be proof of a background check the day that the license is granted, but what good is that?

 

Ha ha
We’re you ever in the military ? There is stronger firearm control and more regulation in the military then in civilian life. You can’t even own the weapon you are issued. It’s NOT YOURS. You can’t even deploy it unless under direct or indirect order. You can’t even carry it freely in many zones. 18 year old males have notoriously poor judgement but are supremely physically fit. Young males are the contradictory element of warfare that needs more control then anyone. I’m not arguing agaisnt 18 year olds legally carrying handguns, but using the military example is fraught with contradiction.

 

So what should the age be then?

 

Yeah, so this is essentially my counter argument too. I wasn't proposing the 'military' argument, but was asking that particular poster if it is something that they would argue, particularly with relation to handguns.

 

There is no correct age, it all depends on maturity which some people develop early in life while some never attain it.

 

Requiring training is a key imo, not age. 18 year olds will generally not have the experience of a military or career of responsibility. I would favor a “need” element for anyone under 21. Heck, I might even lower handgun ownership licensing to 16 if you lived in remote areas of Alaska, Maine and other states. For example, a woodsman and/or tree farming family or farmers in general and livestock owners or workers might be rightfully advantaged to have everyone qualified above 16 armed with a side arm.

 

So what do you think the law should say?

 

But, just to be accurate, regardless of the age and circumstantial need, IMO, you still need to qualify and be licensed. That includes proper training..

 

Nothing.

 

It’s not just ownership, it’s the transference of Firearms that needs tighter federal control. And states need flexibility for individual need to carry but not transference. That should involve tighter federal regulation.

 

Then how would it be determined who can buy a gun?

 

It really cannot be done as there is no way to determine who is qualified and who is not other a criminal history check.

 

That’s a good self answered question. Why not do the research yourself. It’s a question best answered by a panel of qualified persons then voted upon. It’s called a referendum.

 

How the hell is it self answered?

I was asking for their opinion. If you have the ability to research people's opinions, I'd like to know how exactly you do that!

 

Have you ever had a formal education where you were required to educate yourself with a little research ?
Ha ha you only ask questions if you don’t actually know.....or are just trolling. You seem troll a lot.

It’s a pretty poor education if you just ask people’s opinions. That’s a survey.

 

What the hell are you talking about? AGAIN, I was asking for their opinion!

 

I told you my opinion. Referendum. State authority, local control of some need to carry. Now do your own research.