Is the US winning in Ukraine and what reason is there for that belief?

I don't think getting a political belief wrong is a matter of intelligence

but of which information the person hears first than therefore bases
subsequent inferences on, hence: 'he who lies first lies best'.

So the question is really, what is your assumption about who is winning
in Ukraine and what is your source?

 

Well, the US doesn't have a reason to be in this fight. Russia and ukraine are in this fight. Nato and europe have a more direct investment in this fight.
We support Ukraine cause, russia.

 

The Biden puppet is finding a way to pay off the people who bribed him. We are spending hundreds of millions and a small percentage of that is going to the people who bought stock in the Biden crime family.

The Biden puppet masters have the perfect strategy. No one wants Putin to win so that gives perfect cover for the griff.

 

USA, Ukraine, and Russia are losing.

 

Russia and China learned a LOT about the United States by watching how we conduct our military affairs starting with the Korean War. Briefly, they know that America comes into these "brush-wars" with big force-and-effect, and then as time goes on, we tire of it, and eventually just leave. That's what we did in Vietnam, that's what we did in Iraq, and that's what we did in Afghanistan. Essentially the same thing happens with 'proxy-wars', too.

We can outspend the Russians and Chinese put together, but, ultimately the Russians have the advantage. They are patient, they don't care how many men or how much mediocre equipment they lose, and they have an enormous logistical advantage. It's 500 miles from Kiev to Moscow, but it's 5,000 miles and an ocean away from Washington D. C. to Kiev.

Another factor? The Europeans are really getting sick and tired of having their economies being the "toilet paper" for this big, out of control squabble between corrupt factions of these Slavic "cousins", both the Russian oligarchs and the Ukrainian oligarchs. If there's any doubt about that, have a candid discussion with Europeans you may know, especially those in Germany.

 

Russia is winning the war, and they will win it in the long run because they are never going to quit. The only thing that could stop it would regime change in Russia.

The questions are, what will Russia have after they are done? The country has been blown to bits and will need extensive rebuilding. Russia will also be riding herd over an angry population which will resent them for generations. Sabotage and guerrilla warfare will be a problem for the Russians.

The next question is, will Putin invade more of the former Soviet bloc? Will he go after Poland? If he does, the NATO treaties will kick in. That may well be World War III.

 

I think that fundamentally you're right... Russia will win insofar as the "Donbass" provinces are concerned, plus Russia may "recognize" other new regimes in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson. Russia will get its 'land bridge' to Crimea (which will remain safely in Russian hands). Kiev will remain in control over the huge amount of Ukraine that lies west of the Dnieper River.

But there's no way that Russia will be stupid enough to try to invade a NATO country, especially not now after the additions of Sweden and Finland to become NATO nations themselves. Russia has some very significant vulnerabilities, especially when you consider how easy it would be to isolate and blockade Murmansk, St. Petersburg, and all Russian passage in and out of the Black Sea. Russia has an obvious logistics advantage inside Ukraine itself, and if Putin is smart, he'll settle for that and not do anything crazy.

 

The US is 5,000 miles from Ukraine,
Moscow is about 350 miles from eastern Ukraine
so who cares what missiles are put in Ukraine?
the missiles can't reach Washington
but would take about 5 minutes to destroy
Moscow.

Who has skin in the game?

 

I'd say it's a draw. Russia hasn't achieved the objectives that it boldly claimed to want to achieve at the start of its special military operation but it does currently hold land and resources. Ukraine on the other hand has managed to recapture 50% of the land Russia originally took and is still pressing Russia even so much as to have recently been able to attack Russia proper with weak ass drones.

The United States has lost status in the world as a result of Biden's overreaching sanctions in the freezing of assets which now has over half the planet wanting to get away from American dollar or Western interests. It's helped incentivize the growth of BRICs.

So while the United States has absolutely weakened Russia throughout all this at the cost of Ukrainian lives which is kind of disgusting, they've managed to avoid a complete Russian takeover of Ukraine but at the same time has lost the trust of over half the planet.

On the flip side Russia has absolutely gained territory and resources from Ukraine but has lost status as a powerful military might that people should fear cuz it's very obvious they really don't know what they're doing this has been an embarrassment for them culminating with having almost had a civil war breakout.

It should also be pointed out that everybody's economy is going to s*** right now because this war has global reaching effects on everyone's economy as West and East stop a lot of trade with each other and now are scrambling to replace that trade. Because globalization is coming to an end.

So both sides have won something both sides have lost something at the end of the day this was all at the cost of Ukrainian lives.

 

I would suggest that instead of "globalization is coming to an end", what we're seeing is the rapid coalition of a powerful, relatively-new economic force in the form of the "BRICS" countries. These countries, which include economic powerhouses like India and China, as well as powerful regional figures like Russia and Brazil, are forming an alternate economic "universe" which is not dependent on the U. S. Dollar and the whims of the U. S.-based Federal Reserve central bank, and its partners in the European Central Bank, the Bank of England, and several others of note.

Where is "it" going? The U. S. is rapidly becoming a diminished force everywhere throughout the Eastern Hemisphere, and ultimately, when you mash all the air bubbles out of it, it's our wonderous Federal Reserve System running everything for the benefit of U. S. stock market gamblers since 2008 that brought us to this situation!

 

No you fool East is going to be trading with East and West is going to be trading with West and do you know why is because nobody from the East is going to trust the west and nobody from the West is going to trust the east.

The United States used to promise to protect the global trade routes and they're not doing that anymore.

The United States is now switched all manufacturing from China to Mexico. Well most of it. Do you know why? Part of it's because the United States wants to hurt Chinese manufacturing but the other part of the equation is is that Mexican labor is now cheaper than Chinese labor even with China trying to manipulate the currency to keep their labor costs low to incentivize foreign investment. The other reason why people are running away from Chinese manufacturing is due to the zero covid policy stupidity. See part of the problem of having an authoritarian governance is that all decisions filter to one idiot on the big chair. And if he's stupid he's going to come up with stupid ideas like the zero covid policy which was a disaster. He single-handedly forced the shutdown of a population the size of the United States destroying manufacturing in China for a crazy long period. As such people now want to diversify they don't want all their eggs in one basket so to speak. And China loses. As they will because authoritarian governance is just a bad idea.

But the biggest problem that the East has is that nobody is f****** trustworthy over there. Somebody has to regulate the currency of BRICs. And half of your countries don't get along in this glorious new "partnership". Never mind the fact that inflation will happen whenever you try to use currency backed by gold or some sort of finite commodity.

 

An enormous amount of nearly every consumer and industrial product consumed in the United States is made in China, and, more recently, also in India. This is part of a process that has been ongoing ever since the implosion of the Soviet Union over thirty years, which made the world "safe for democracy" -- uh -- and safe for off-shore capitalism, too!

All was going so well, until this big joy-ride hit a brick wall with "the Great Recession", which in its origin was caused by what Alan Greenspan (former Fed-chairman) famously called "irrational exuberance", and which was propelled by an out-of-control Federal Reserve central bank in the U. S. Oops!

Oh, and it certainly didn't help that for years, Democrat politicians had been distorting every rule of free-market capitalism possible to enable poor people to buy houses they couldn't even begin to afford! But, what the hell, it was this kind of nonsense that helped get Republicans pushed out of the White House, so, to Democrats, it was well worth it.

What you call "East" in the BRICS connotation involves not only Russia, China, India, Brazil, and South Africa, it is soon to also include Iran, Egypt, Argentina, the United Arab Emirates, and Saudi Arabia. Indeed, have you forgotten that Goldman Sachs itself predicted over twenty years ago that the BRICS countries would dominate global growth by the year 2050...?

But, you have called me a "fool", and inferred that I'm probably a citizen of a BRICS country, too, so I'm sure that nothing I could say would persuade you otherwise. Truth? I'm an unaffiliated, middle-of-the-road American citizen who like many of my kind is appalled at the reckless, mindless idiocy that both Republicans AND Democrats have inflicted on our country and its economy for at least the last thirty years!

 

Are we at war in the Ukraine?

 

And because we were party to agreements that if Ukraine would disarm themselves in exchange for no conflicts.

US Russia and Ukraine all signed.

 

Of course not. Spending money government doesn't have is never a win.

 

Yes, it is called 'a proxy war'.

The Russian Federation and everyone and their grandmother know most of the weapons come from
the US, and the army NATO trained and equipped is directed from the US using our spy satellite images.

Despite starting with 700,000 soldiers and continuing to add more, the battle is going very badly
and the Ukraine Armed Forces, drawn from Western, Central, and to some extent from other areas
of Ukraine, is running very low on personnel.

So the war is changing to the US supplying longer-ranged missiles and launching them on Crimea, Donetsk
and Russia.

 

That was in the 1990s and Ukraine only agreed after finding no way to use those weapons.
And since then the US has violated the neutrality of Ukraine.

 

The US cannot win the war in Ukraine because they are not at war. Only Ukraine can win the win in Ukraine. Not even Russia can win the war because they have not admitted they are at war. They call it a special operation which can either be a success or a failure.

 

Well I guess that's better than leaving all that military hardware laying around like we did when we left Afghanistan. Those pesky Ruskes need a little comeuppance.

 

30% or more is laying around, or to be more is being sold for a few percent
of the purchase price to anyone who wants it.

It's Joe Biden again arming the rest of the world at a cost to the US taxpayer.

 

The U.S. isn't involved. The war is between Russia and Ukraine.

 

Except there are some US military personnel in Ukraine and many many tons of artillery shells and other munitions and weapons,
and the US is providing coordinates for Ukrainian weapons and remote programming of the ones we supply, it is generally
referred to as a proxy war between the US and Russia with Ukraine providing the battlefield and most of the people.

 

Using that logic, The U.S. defended Russia from the Germans during WWII while the Russians sat with their thumbs up their butt doing nothing. The German invasion of Russia in 1941 was just a proxy war between U.S. and Germany, which the U.S. obviously provoked somehow.

 

I really believe, as a nation, we have lost our will to fight. It seems that every year we have more and more groups that want to be loved. Yet, they have not learned that they need to love their selves first. if one cannot respect and love themselves, how can they possibly love others and respect others? I was taught years ago that if no one loves you or respects you today maybe it's because you haven't been very lovable towards others. The most precious thing that we are given is life. Yet we seem to be a society that doesn't venerate the sanctity of it.

How many of our children have to die because drugs? How many children will never be born because of abortion? How many of our children will die in the streets because they have no guidance and not enough will to care enough to show them the way? How many of our fellow citizens have to live on the streets because we do not have the will to hold our elected officials accountable for the actions they have taken to help them? How many of our children have to fail in school and fail in life because we do not get involved with what they learning? Yes, there are those who do fight for those things, but how many of us are guilty of sitting back and not lifting a hand to help them? P.S. - As I reread my post, I find that I am guilty also.

 

The US is not in Ukraine, the US in not winning or losing anything in Ukraine.