Is this what conservatives stand for?

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  1. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    We believe that the Constitution of the United States is the greatest charter of human liberty ever conceived by the mind of man.

    We oppose all efforts to invade or destroy the rights guaranteed by it to every citizen of this republic.

    We stand for social and economic justice, which, we believe can be guaranteed to all citizens only by a strict adherence to our Constitution and the avoidance of any invasion or destruction of the constitutional rights of the states and individuals. We oppose the totalitarian, centralized bureaucratic government and the police nation called for by the platforms adopted by the Democratic and Republican Conventions.

    We stand for the constitutional right to choose one's associates; to accept private employment without governmental interference, and to earn one's living in any lawful way. We favor home-rule, local self-government and a minimum interference with individual rights.
    We stand for the check and balances provided by the three departments of our government. We oppose the usurpation of legislative functions by the executive and judicial departments. We unreservedly condemn the effort to establish in the United States a police nation that would destroy the last vestige of liberty enjoyed by a citizen.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if they did, they would support same gender marriage, would be against the war on drugs, would support separation of church and state, ect...

    many Conservatives do, but those Conservatives in power do not seem to be of that same mentality


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  3. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    What a lame attempt at a "gotcha" type guilt-by-association fallacy.

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=25851
     
  4. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Looks like a standard Tea Party platform of today, why not simply call it what it is, or post an actual Tea Party platform and ask if posters agree with it?

    I agree with it, though am a classical liberal, not a conservative.

    Oh, OP, by posting this, you handily disproved the "conservative/liberal through the ages" fallacy that your side is so fond of engaging in here. Those terms are only useful shorthand in the now, as your OP makes crystal clear. This will come in handy in the next "Southern Strategy" thread. Thanks.

    Good catch by Brewskier btw.
     
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    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    So that must mean you also agree with the parts of the platform he didn't list! Gotcha!
     
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    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    I'm a bit disappointed. Trollery is not something I've observed that you participate in. But that's clearly what's going on here.
     
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  7. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    shmittygoatman New Member

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    I agree with every word posted.
     
  9. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

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    Not really. I don't think you meant wrong by it, but it doesn't really encompass the basic ideals of Conservatism, what the arguments behind Conservative ideas is.
     
  10. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    nope making a point
    dixiecrats were conservative
     
  11. yguy

    yguy Well-Known Member

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    You expect us to take "social and economic justice" as anything but a leftard buzz-phrase?
     
  12. maat

    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This was my concern as well. Justice implies equality which is not a conservative value.
     
  13. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    1. Dixiecrats lasted -one- year... that's -one...year-.
    2. They carried 4 out of 12 Southern states, and Truman (ahem... NEW DEAL COALITION) carried the other 8.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat

    There -was- a significant bloc of Southern White voters at the time of the Dixiecrats in 1948 that lasted more than -one- year. They were part of something called "The New Deal Coalition," perhaps you've heard of it. Perhaps you can also enlighten us by outlining in detail exactly how "conservative" the New Deal Coalition was. This should be priceless.

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