Islam Has No Place in America

Islam is an ideology which is totally IMMORAL. It also advocates ideas (if not commands them) which are ILLEGAL under US Law. Examples are >> Mass genocide (Koran 8:12, 9:5, 9:73, 9:123, many others), Wife-beating (Koran 4:34), Rape (Koran 2:223, 4:24. 4:34), Pedophilia (Koran 65:4), Slavery (Koran 33:50), Animal killing (2:125, 22:27-2, etc. ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

In addition to advocating lawlessness galore, Islam itself is lawless in that, as a supremacist ideology (masquerading as a religion) it is a violation of the US Constitution (Article 6, Section 2, the Supremacy Clause). It is also a violation of US Code 2384 (Seditious Conspiracy).

As such, it is a moot point to say that Islam should be banned in America. That's because we can see, from the items I just mentioned, that it already is banned, from those items. The only problem is that the illegality of Islam is not being recognized or attended to. The laws on the books aren't being enforced. And thy're not likely to be enforced, when the president of the US is a Muslim himself, and his administration is riddled with Muslim radicals who are members of the notorious Muslim Brotherhood, sworn to destroy America.

Perhaps the only way this problem can be solved is for the American people to first educate themselves about jihad both violent (al Qaeda) and generally non-violent (the Muslim Brotherhood). It is important to first know your enemy. Next, strategies to defeat these subversives must be followed. These can be lawsuits, pressure on public officials, protest demonstrations against Islamization, etc.

Lastly, be advised that there are radical Muslim posters in this forum, who pretend to be objective Christians.
Their words however easily give them away. No normal American calls Islam a moral religion. To do so would mean a re-defining of things like wife-beating, pedophilia, and outright murder as being moral. One must always be on guard for for imposters who play taqiyya (lying as long as it benefits Islam) like a violin.

US Constitution - Article 6, Section 2 (the Supremacy Clause)

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."

US Code 2384 (Seditious Conspiracy)

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-obama-administration-muslim-brotherhood.html

Good protectionist reading against Isalmization and Muslim terrorism.


1. They Must Be Stopped by Brigitte Gabriel

2. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) by Robert Spencer

3. Stealth Jihad by Robert Spencer

4. Infiltration by Paul Sperry

5. The Day of Islam by Dr. Paul Williams

6. Sharia: the Threat to America by the Center for Security Policy

7. The Third Jihad (DVD) by Dr. Zuddhi Jasser

8. Muslim Mafia by P.David Gaubatz & Paul Sperry

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Stealth Jihad is THE method of operation of the Muslim Brotherhood as was revealed in the Brotherhood's 1991 Explanatory Memorandum...for North America, discovered by the FBI in 2005, and declassified in the Holy Land Foundation, Hamas terrorist funding trial in 2007 & 2008.

The key words from it are :

"The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all that the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated, and Allah's religion is made victorious over all religions."

Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al. 7 (21).

If anybody would be lame enough to try to refute this, the US Justice Dept. is the source of the information, and they will back it up. So will the 5 or 6 Muslim Brotherhood leaders convicted in the trial, and now rotting in prison, for the rest of their lives.

 

All religions have a place in this nation. If a religion isn't allowed to IMPOSE itself upon America's citizens, then things will be fine.

Maintaining Separation of Church and State is the BEST solution.

 

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This country was founded by people who came here to escape religious persecution. Any argument trying to compel otherwise is unamerican.

It really doesn't matter what you're religion says, as long as you abide by the common laws of the United States when living here. You could believe in a flying spaghetti monster god who commands his subjects to throw babies into microwaves, and it's fine. Just as long as you don't actually do that.

 

We just found another reason the right wing lost the elections, anti-freedom, anti-Americanism.

 

Amen!!!

 

Luckily we have this thing called the U.S. Constitution.

It protects your right to post such dreck(not on these private boards but free from government interference) and it protects all religions from the type of discrimination that you want the U.S. to embark on.

Your post is in the fine tradition of the Jew-baiters, the Catholic haters and the anti-Mormon mobs- there are always those who will want America to hate some group that believes differently than they do.

 

The old testament contains come pretty illegal things too doesn't? Thing is, that most religious people aren't actually good christians/muslims because if they were they'd be freaking psychos. The problem with muslims is that they tend to actually believe the (*)(*)(*)(*). But then, I kinda agree with the point that if they are muslims they claim to believe in the koran and if the koran is commanding them to do illegal things it should logically be illegal to muslim. Maybe an american koran in which all illegal things are removed would be the solution? same should of course apply to a religions. actually, there shouldn't be any distinction between religions and ideologies.

 

Absolutely right. But unfortunately, up to now the pseudo-"religion' Islam HAS been allowed to impose itself upon America's citizens, in many ways, for quite a long time, as the books I listed in the OP describe clearly. I agree wholehearedtly with your sentiment though.

Am busy now. I'll be back later to do battle with the forum resident Islamists, who are already coming out of the woodwork to pollute the thread with their Islamist propaganda.

 

I see no 'Islamists' here so far, just Americans who believe in the constitution.

 

Luckily we have this thing called the U.S. Constitution.

It protects your right to post such dreck(not on these private boards but free from government interference) and it protects all religions from the type of discrimination that you want the U.S. to embark on.

Your post is in the fine tradition of the Jew-baiters, the Catholic haters and the anti-Mormon mobs- there are always those who will want America to hate some group that believes differently than they do.

 

Two very big BUTS come into play here:

1. But it does matter what Islam says. Because by its supremacism, it is on violation of the Constitution's Supremacy Clause. ANd its leaders (Muslim Brotherhood), by what they say (their Explanatory Memorandum) are also in violation of US Code 2384 (Seditious Conspiracy)

2. But Muslim doctrine commands that they break what are now American laws. And since they believe it to be the word of God, that's what they do (slavery, wife-beating, discrimination, rape, etc)

 

1. You are the one claiming that Islam= all of Islam is in violation of the Supremacy Cause. You and a few deluded Islamophobes. Meanwhile everyone else recognizes that Islam is a religion protected by the First Amendment.
1a- the Muslim Brotherhood speaks only for the Muslim Brotherhood. If they advocate sedition they can be prosecuted just as any white supremicist group could be for the same sort of dreck.

2. Muslim's who break the law in the United States get prosecuted. They are no more compelled to stone adulterers than Christians or Jews.

3. This is the same idiocy as the Jew baiting, Catholic hating and anti-Mormon mobs- religious bigotry is an ugly thing.

 

My anti-Islamization is not "right wing". It has nothing to do with right or left. Many prominent left wing politicians are on public record opposing Islamization (Harry Reid, Howard Dean, Bill Maher, Kirsten Powers, Geraldo Rivera, David Letterman, et al) As for me LOL, pretty hard to call me "right wing" when I advocate a 99% income tax on the richest Americans and support the Affordable Health Care Act for animal pets in addition to humans. I'm a semi-neo-Marxist. And your credibility was destroyed in the Obama Administration = the Muslim Brotherhood thread. You may go back to your room now.

 

You may go back to his room with him.

 

You should try reading the Bible and see what it says in there. You will agree that there is no place for Christianity as well then I expect.

 

Here come the Islamists to pour out the false propaganda. I told you they'd be here.

1. UNluckily, we don't have a full supply of public officials who will enforce the Constitution stopping Islam, based on Article 6, Section 2.

2. Unluckily, the Constitution is only a piece of paper, and therefore needs people to protect us from religious discrimination. And since the people empowered to do that aren't doing their jobs, therefore we are being religiously discriminated against by Islamofascist Muslims who (just for one example) did exactly that to Lina Morales, at a Muslim-owned company she worked at (Rising Star), by firing her for not complying with Islamist law (bring pork products to work for lunch).

3. My post is in the fine tradition of protectionists, who want America to defend itself from those Muslims who hate all non-Muslims, and who insist on their anti-American, ILLEGAL lawbreaking ideology, to be in force all across America.

 

The OP seems to disagree with the Founders of this Nation. Good to know the RWNJ's will Never run this Nation.

 

I have long said that the Koran should be reformed and all the immoral/iilegal stuff should be removed. That has NEVER happened in all the 1400 years of the Koran. During thes 14 centuries, not one word of the book of hate has been changed. Why ? Because Muslims believe it is the word of God, and that can't be tampered with. This is a case of mass insanity, combined with mass stupidity.

 

I see Islamists, and they sure don't believe in the Constitution (Article 6, Section 2, the Supremacy Clause)

 

Freedom of Religion buddy.

Someone could go through different interpretations of our bible and make it look bad just the same.

 

Freedom is good if you’re not doing anything to step on any one else’s you can practice whatever faith you like you don’t offer protection just oppression

 

on par with every self-righteous (*)(*)(*)(*)er screaming about something from Leviticus

 

Luckily we have this thing called the U.S. Constitution.

It protects your right to post such dreck(not on these private boards but free from government interference) and it protects all religions from the type of discrimination that you want the U.S. to embark on.

Your post is in the fine tradition of the Jew-baiters, the Catholic haters and the anti-Mormon mobs- there are always those who will want America to hate some group that believes differently than they do.

 

The fine precurser to Protectionist and his ilk:

The Know Nothing was a movement by the nativist American political faction of the 1850s, characterized by political xenophobia, anti-Catholic sentiment, and occasional bouts of violence against the groups the nativists targeted. It was empowered by popular fears that the country was being overwhelmed by German and Irish Catholic immigrants, who were often regarded as hostile to republican values and controlled by the Pope in Rome.

 

1. "Everyone else" most certainly does not recognize that Islam is a religion.

http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/27211

http://newenglishreview.org/Rebecca_...ot_a_Religion/

http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/2010/07/28...ot-a-religion/

http://avideditor.wordpress.com/2008...mplete-system/

http://www.amazon.com/Allah-Dead-Why.../dp/0578073900

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0XQYteCu6E

http://thepatriotfactor.blogspot.com...-religion.html

http://jdlcanada.wordpress.com/2012/...-a-religion-4/

http://www.facebook.com/islamisnotar...nitsawayoflife

http://rt.com/news/geert-wilders-koran-islam/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdozXhh_5h0

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/20...-religion.html

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...lam_isnt_a.php

1a. Yes they "could" be prosecuted. But instead they are working in the White House, the State Dept., the Pentagon, the FBI, and the CIA.

2. Did the owners of Rising Star get prosecuted for discrimination against Lina Morales ? Did the administrators of DePaul University get prosecuted for firing Thomas Klocek ? (a violation of the first amendment - free speech). Did the owners of WMAL-AM radio get prosecuted for firing Michael Graham (a violation of the first amendment - free speech). Or Cal Thomas ? Or Paul Harvey ? Or Michael Savage ?

And how about thousands of US Muslim husbands who beat their wives (in accordance with Koran 4:34, and in opposition to US assault & battery laws) behind their closed doors and shut blinds. The fact is NO, they don't get prosecuted.

3. And what you are saying is that support for obedience of the laws of the USA, "is an ugly thing."
No, it is a proper thing. It is YOU who is improper.