Islam spreads to South America

This was for YOU, protectionist.

 

Escape from Slavery by Francis Bok. That is one of the many books that YOU have a lot to learn from, MS. QUIZ ZERO.

As for what the Christians did, the Celts, the Vikings, etc., that isn't the topic of this thread. Islam is the topic. So if you want to talk about all those other subjects, you ought to be able to find your way to the New Thread button, I would suspect.

 

YOU, MS QUIZ ZERO refer to ME as "ignorant of Islam" ? HA HA HA HA !! Well if that were the case, then you would have given me the Islam quiz, and I would have flunked it with a zero. But as it happened, I gave you the quiz, and you flunked it, with a nice round ZERO, so I am the knowledgeable one, and you are the dunce.

Now, if you want redemption, and want to be able to claim to have some knowledge of what's going on with Islam in Europe and North America, fine, here's the quiz again. Take your best shot. You don't get to be be called knowledgeable just by your say so. You've got to prove it. Remember, I know who all these people and things are. If you try to slip in any fake answers, I'll catch you. LOL.

Identify these Names associated with Stealth Jihad (AKA Islamization) :

Ibin Taamiyah, the Madhi, Sheik Ahmed Yassin, Sami al-Arian, Ramadan Abdallah Shallah, Mazen al-Najjar, Richard A. Clarke, Imam Muzzamil Siddiqui, Susan Douglas, Peter DiGangi, William Bennetta, Gilbert Sewall , Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, al-Hajj Talib'Abur, Rashid Sahmsi Ali, Khalid Latif, Omar Mohammedi, Joe Kaufman, Chantal Carnes, Hasan al-Banna (creator of the Muslim Brotherhood-I'll give you that one), Tariq Ramadan, Siraj Wahhaj, Mozen Mokhtar, Nouman Ali Khan, Abdul Malik , Imam Badawi, Br. Jawad Ahmad, Hassan Abbas, Mullah Abdul Rashid Ghazi, Sheik Mjed 'Abd al-Rahman al-Firian, Prince Sultan Ibn Abd al-'Aziz, Ali al-Ahmed, Itamar Marcus, Barbara Cook, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, Mohammed Osman Idris, Mohammed el-Yacoubi, Abu Abdullah, Baitullah Mehsud, Yunis al-Astal, Zeyno Baran, Aaron Klein, Muhammad Abdel-El, Sheik Yasser Hamad, Nur Mohammad, Ahmed Yassin (deceased), Sheik Abdel Rahman, Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid AL Maktoum, Abdullah Azzam, Fazlur Rehman Khalil , Mohammad Elachmi Hamdi, Bat Ye'or, Max Steenberghe, Anders Fogh Ramussen, Paul Jeeves, Yusuf al-Qarodawi, Bashar al-Assad, Robert S. Leiken, Theo Van Gogh, Michel Gurfinkel, Imam Ahmed Salam, Piet Hein Donner, Miguel Angel Toma , Salah Yassin, Hassan Nasrallah, Ahmed Assad Barakat, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Bashar al-Assad, Adolpho Aguilar Zinser, Joseph Farah, Nabil al-Marabh, Raed Hijazi, David Harris, Syed Mumtaz Ali, Omar Ahmad, Ibrahim Hooper, Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani, Dr. Paul Williams , Hassan al Turabi, Clement Rodney Hampton-El, Kevin James, Warner MacKenzie, Sayeed Abdul A'la Maududi, Abdullah Yusef Ali, Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, Nessim Joseph Dawood, Mohammed Habib Shakir, Arthur John Arberry, Aqsa Parvez, Atefeh Rajabi, Francis Bok, Michael Coren, Homaidan Ali Al-Turki, Sheik Saleh Al-Fawzan, Paul Marshall, Koenraad Elst, Tom Clancy, Phil Alden Robinson, Michael Graham, Thomas Klocek, Stephen Coughlin, Hasham Islam, Steven Emerson, Mordechai Nisan, Abduraman Alamoudi, Ramadan Abdallah Shallah, Musa Abu Marzook, Keith Ellison, Abdullah al-Arian, ,Jamal-al-Din al-Afghani, James Woolsey, Walid Phares, Guy Rodgers, Brigitte Gabriel, Robert Spencer, Paul Sperry, P.David Gaubatz, Chris Gaubatz, Stefanie Creswell, Charety Zhe, Adnan el-Shukrijumah, Jaffar the Pilot, Mohammad Weiss Rasool, Brian P. Fairchild, Peter M. Leitner, Sergeant Naveed I. Butt, Bill Bratton

Identify theseThings associated with Stealth Jihad (AKA Islamization) :

Hijra, jizyah, Istanbul, Al-Quds, Al-Aqsa mosque, , treaty of Al-Hudaybiyah, Oslo Accords, the Mahdi, Al-Ansar, 2006 Pentagon report : "Motivations of Muslim Suicide Bombers" ), "The Project", the Muslim Brotherhood, the Ikhwan, Taqiyya, Da'wa, Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), Holy Land Foundation trials - 2007 & 2008, Khalil Gibran Academy, US Treasury Dept. (Office of Foreign Asset Control), Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), Muslim American Society (MSA), United States Counterinsurgency Manual FM 3-24, US Justice Dept. report - 2004, US Justice Dept. report - 2007, abeds, North American Islamic Trust, Islamic Council for North America, United Association for Studies and Research, Muslim American Youth Association, the Hamas Charter, Islamic Academy of Florida, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, American Youth Academy, New Horizons Schools, DawaNet-to link • to serve: Home with sections entitled "How to Make America an Islamic Nation" and Da'wa in Public Schools, Excelsior Elementary School, Thomas Moore Law Center, Islamic Saudi Academy, "The Islam Project" by the Council on Islamic Education, the Arab World History Notebook, "Across the Centuries", California Academy of Sciences, "World Cultures : A Global Mosaic", American Textbook Council, "Islam and the Textbooks", Arab American Family Support Center (AAFSC), Mosque of Islamic Brotherhood's Boy Scout program (MIB), Americans Against Hate, CAIR Watch, the Young Muslims, Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), Jamaat-e-Islami, Young Muslim Sisters (YMS), Middle East Media Research Institute, US Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF), Freedom House, Institute for Gulf Affairs, Palestinian Media Watch, "Contemporary Problems", "History of the Arabs and the World in the 20th Century", Reading and Text Part II, Association of Independent Schools, ISA accreditation, Center for Religious Freedom, Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami, Islamic Party of Liberation, Al-Aksa TV of Hamas, Hudson institute, Popular Resistance Committee, "Schmoozing With Terrorists", US House of Representitives, Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, "Eurabia, the Euro-Arab Axis", European Union, the Arab League,"Foreign Affairs" - "Europe's Angry Muslims", Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), Sharee Council of Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, Immigration and National Security Program at the Nixon Center, Sukuk, Sharia compliant banks, Saxony-Anhalt, piggy banks in England, foot washing basins (Kansas City Airport & University of Michigan), "Britain's Daily Mail" - "Multiculturalsim Drives Young Muslims to Shun British Values", Nationa Intelligence Council, www.islamonline.net, "Valeurs Actuelles", the triple border region, UN Security Council, House Homeland Security Committee subcommittee on investigations report : "A Line In the Sand: Confronting the Threat At the Southwest Border", OTMs, Jamaat ul-Fuqra, Muslims of the Americas, the FBI, Canadian Security Intelligence Service, "TD Monthly", halal chicken, ACLU, the Date Frappuccino, Open Society Foundation, Whiting Foundation, hijab, Transportation & Safety Admin. (TSA), "New Media Journal" report - "In the Belly of the Beast: Jamaat ul-Fuqra, Jamaat ul-Fuqra mosque (Brooklyn, NY), Koran: 4:34, honor killings, the Alec file, Jamiyyat Ul-Islam, It's the Ideology Stupid,Tad-ru-bu-hu-nna, Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, UN Children's Fund, the Population Council - 2003 survey, m'uta, Haratines, Janjaweed, Dinka tribe, "Escape From Slavery", Toronto Sun online - "Slavery Lives in the Sudan", Middle East Forum - "The Problem with Slavery", Saudi Arabia Senior Council of Clerics, Human Rights Watch, Middle East Forum, Copts, Baha'i sect of Islam, "Islam : From Toleration to Terror", Hizb ut-Tahrir, Jyllands-Posten, "The Sum of All Fears", University of South Florida, Palistinian Islamic Jihad, "Future Jihad", Mosque Census Project, Eid al-Adha, Shahada, Mahram, FBI's Arab/Muslim Sikh American Advisory Committee, Higgins Center for Counterterrorism Research, Jamaat e-Islami,

 

Yeah, defensive war isn't the same as that. But the OFFENSIVE WAR that Muslims have been fighting for 1400 years, to create a worldwide Islamic caliphate, sure is. LOL. And that's still their goal now, in 2011.

Stealth Jihad is THE method of operation of the Muslim Brotherhood as was revealed in the 1991 Explanatory Memorandum...for North America, discovered by the FBI in 2005, and declassified in the Holy Land Foundation, Hamas terrorist funding trial in 2007 & 2008.

The key words from it are :

"The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all that the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated, and Allah's religion is made victorious over all religions."

Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al. 7 (21).

 

These are the rantings and ravings of either a Muslim desperately/hopelessly attempting to rationalize his abomination ideology, or the rantings and looney ravings of a totally brainwashed/programmed fool who has been in the firing line of Muslim indoctrinators (American universities are full of them).
The comments quoted above, have their refutations in the quotes of mine that the comments quoted. LOL.

PS - I've said nothing about Christianity. The TOPIC of the thread is Islam, and I wish everyone would stick to it, but Muslims and Islamapologists of all stripes just can't resist blabbing about Christianity, can they ? What else is new ? LOL.

 

Just wanted to pop in and say protectionist is thoroughly kicking some major apologist ass in this thread.

Defending Islam and it's history is defending the indefensible. That is why apologists have no other option than to drag down the other religions to Islam's level. The one thing they can't escape, though, is that Islam is still the only religion that never grew out of its medieval barbarism. It is the only religion today that is trying to set up a worldwide caliphate and bring everyone under its rule.

Yes, Christianity has an ugly past, despite the fact that the main figure in the religion was as peaceful as they come. The message that Jesus sent was overwhelmingly good, and it would take a huge amount of pretzeled logic to arrive at the conclusion that Jesus ordered his followers to kill in his name. Contrast that with Islam, where the central figure was a bloodthirsty warlord and pedophile who gave open commandments to his followers to wage war with the unbelievers until the entire world fell to the religion of Islam. There is simply no comparison. To try and make a comparison where there is none really shows how desperate and dishonest the apologists are.

 

Well said, and all correctly.

 

That's one group. There is no historical precedent for jihad by settlement. They are inventing something new, not doing something that muslims have done in the past.

But since you like giving quizes, I's like to quiz you as well.

1. Name the 5 pillars of Islam

2. What are the differences between Sunni and Shi'ia Islam

3. What does Halal mean

4. How many chapters are in the Koran?

5. Who is Dajjal?

6. Who is Mahdi?

Just for starters. If you can't answer six simple questions about Islam, then we have no reason to take you seriously. Have fun.

 

Protectionist: I you knew anything about Islam and its history, you would know that this terrorism is a NEW, modern aberration.

Its what happens when faith hardens into cold blooded, hatred, ignorance and intolerance.. Its what happens who YOU or any Jew, Christian or Muslim believes that they are doing God's work.

Its NOT passionate. Its cold and determined and pitiless... Its the same thing that happened to Baruch Goldstein when he when he machine gunned all those men worshiping at the Mosque... at the certain cost of his own life.

 

It is far more-so impossible to be a true follower of Christ while advocating the intolerance and fear and violent ignorance against the religion of Islam.

And claiming that mainstream Christianity as believing "Thou shalt not kill" is an utterly absurd claim.

You claiming Islam is not a religion makes your self into a fool.

And if you dream that anyone of merit would buy into that nonsense then that makes you into a double fool.

I say Islam does bring out and expose the intolerance and fear and violent ignorance of infidels, so in that case it is a visible proof that the Holy Qur'an was inspired by God since it is the message which brings out the evil in person as quoted above.

As in God knew exactly what was coming for humanity in the latter days, and the Holy Qur'an is the best weapon for the Muslims against their violent enemies.

I totally disagree with this because the big power of Islam is that it surely does imprint self-respect along with self discipline and moral stature to all of its members.

 

I'm not a Christian, but I believe the Bible says "hate what is evil." Correct me if I'm wrong. Islam condones murder and even things like pedophilia. That's evil, in my opinion. Obviously, Muslims have a very low standard of evil, since they do so many evil things.

Where does Jesus tell his followers to kill others?

It is much more of a political system than it is a religion. The Qur'an is more obsessed with how to run a society and government than it is about followers having a relationship with a higher power.

That's a really stupid argument. Maybe he just doesn't like the Qur'an because it tells 1.5 billion people that they must kill everyone who doesn't think like they do? Maybe because the Qur'an is an intolerant, misogynist, Jew-hating, murder manifesto?

Your mom must be so proud that you turned into a Jihadist. A pasty-faced white jihadist in the UK.

Yeah, those jihadists really looked like they had self respect and self control when they were cutting people's heads off on video.

 

It is always fun to read the comments of people who think they know Islam without reading the Quran or Hadiths.... Even funner when they make things up to try and distort history to prove their point.

As for asking why people meantion the history of Christianity while defending Islam, well it's quite simple. What you use to insult Islam is the same thing Christians have done (even worse), yet you completely ignore it while bashing Islam.

Salam.

 

The point is, I am Christian and am not Muslim. So I am against the Muslims and Islam. I don't ignore anything. I recognize who I am.

Quantrill

 

Wait a minute... I thought only Islam taught hate and intolerance, and Christianity taught love.

Woah, so according to your definition of both religions you are actually what you consider "Muslims" to be, if that is what you truly believe.

You see, you can't win a argument with ignorance

Salam.

 

Why is it ignorance? Your ignorance?

I recognize there is a difference between Christianity and Islam. I am against Islam. They are against me.

No I am not what Muslims are because I am Christian.

Quantrill

 

Who's "they"?

I don't see millions of Muslims calling for Jihad against the non-believers however I see Christians invading Muslim land slaughtering them with weapons and fighting a phony "War on Terror" against civilians and terror groups trained by America.

I'm not saying there isn't a difference, but for somebody who knows little to nothing about Islam how can you be against it? That is ignorant.

Tell me, what DO you know about Islam? I'm curious. How many verses of the Quran have you read? Which Hadiths have you read? Do you even know what a Hadith is? What is haram for Muslims to do?

If you are against Islam, you must know much about it, am I right?

BTW I am Muslim, but this doesn't mean I hate all Christians or Jews. I am tolerant of all major religions. Hope that doesn't make your head explode.

Salam.

 

Islam is a Satanic murder cult, Allah is a false god, and Mohammad is a false prophet. Islam is a vile unjust religion that is based on hate. Thats all you need to know about Islam, because thats all there is.

 

Christians have never done anything close to the same amount of damage that 1400 years of jihad warfare from Muslims have done. The only way you can justify this bogus claim is to attribute things to Christianity that are not related to Christianity at all. (Hitler being a Christian, for example, has been thoroughly debunked. The man hated Christianity, but he was quite fond of Islam and hung out with the Mufti, quite often).

 

What a saint you are. I'm sure as long as the Jews and Christians "pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued", you can tolerate them. That's what the Qur'an teaches.

I noticed the tricky wording in your sentence, as well. Thanks for demonstrating kitman. "doesn't mean I hate all Christians or Jews", means that you do hate some. The ones you don't hate are probably dhimmis that you could easily gain authority over.

 

"They" are the Muslims.

Jihad is going on constantly among the Muslims in all countries where they exist.

I know enough about Islam to say what I have said. I know all I really want to know about Islam.

No one wants to live with Islam as the majority and they tolerating other religions. No one except Muslims. I would rather die then live under Islam's tolerance.

Quantrill

 

Islam is already everywhere.I don't have any problem with this as long as it doesn't ethically cross the line.The global agreement says people are allowed to have their own religion or not to believe in god at all.The only restricting term is that anybody must not aggressively behave on the behalf of his religion.
As a profane jew,I'm all for having faith in god as long as it doesn't lead to violence.

 

Nero watched Rome burn and decided the wicked Christians did it - which probably interested a lot of people in that slandered belief. Similarly, the evil ranting of so many racists and other loathsome people is interesting others in what they so much hate, Islam. I was listening to a programme lately about how Bliar's very decent sister-in-law has accepting Islam. Press on, American Caesarists! It will merely help those you hate.

 

lol blah blah blah... too lazy to actually learn about it I see.

I am talking about crusades, not Hitler. But whatever, you think there has been 1400 years of Jihad... Where do you get this from lol?

And we Muslims pay Zakat. Do you know what Zakat is? Besides it seems they don't mind paying since they still live in these countries when they could leave.

Not at all. I hate Muslims too, I don't base who and what I hate based on their faith... There are things such as personality that is a big factor. For me atleast. Blind hate leads to nowhere.

Oh really? Jihad isn't happening. Al Qaida doesn't speak for all Muslims silly infidel.

You are foolish. Too ignorant to learn about something you want to hate. You see, Islam tells us to learn about many things so I won't be as ignorant as people such as you. Never stop learning.

If you know all you want to know about Islam then I can't take anything you say seriously. It's like a janitor talking about rocket science.

Nobody is forcing Sharia on the world, relax and please don't lose sleep over your medias propoganda.



Salam.

 

Obviously you have no clue what jizya is or who pays it or why or what the obligations are for the Ummah..

 

What utter BS.. You have never lived anywhere in the Arab world .. and you have NO clue about Lebanon or its people.