Israel announces plan to create 2,500 settlements in Palestinian-controlled territory

On both of those you have things upside down and are blaming all Jews for the actions of Israel.

Palestinians wanted a national state. European Jews came in and wanted them transferred out of their historic homeland and it to be taken over along ethnic lines for an ethnic nationalist state similar to what Germany was up to at the time. Only later did the Palestinians decide they would go for the same as a response to this. Nowhere in the ME at that time was their segregation but in Europe where these Jews came from it was a central theme.

http://jfjfp.com/?p=90566

No Palestinians do not hate Jews. Jews and Palestinians work very well together on things like BDS and Palestinians take great care to make sure antisemitism is kept well at bay.

Palestinians and indeed Arabs antipathy is political not religious or ethical. When they believed there was going to be a satisfactory resolution after Oslo so called antisemitism in the ME plummeted.

Sorry but you are projecting. Zionists hate Palestinians and want all of historic Palestine.

Zionists hate arabs and have been working for several years to spread this hatred across the world building it up to the point of total dehumanisation - the requirement for genocide as we see on this forum.

 

No go, alexa. The answer (2 valid answers, really) are plain and obvious. You just can't bring yourself to be truthful.

Why do Palestinians want to live in Israel, and demanding to be let in and to live among the Jews?

 

Israel is making a concerted effort to alienate the american people which will eventually make american politicians have to question current levels of funding.

 

"The way in which the nation of Israel leads by example... Israel's ability to create 21st century economy of technology and innovation is the envy of the World"

Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull

 

And yet the average income in Israel is no better than the average income in Greece. The question would be why are so many Israelis coming to the United States for opportunity and leaving Israel

 

And yet, Israel is one of the most the technologically advanced, innovating, enterprising countries of the world, leading the world in the fields of electronics, telecommunications, biotechnology, computers and so on and so on. Did you know, Israel is one of the leading nations of the world in the number of hi-tech startups?

Palestinians? Let them loose, and their goats will make short work of all the green Israelis managed to plant in no time!

 

All of your actions and statements support my position.

This does not prove your claim.

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Prove this.
Please cite the UNSC resolution(s) dealing with the Israeli settlements inside the borders of Lebanon, Jordan and/or Syria.

 

The "Palestinians" see all of "Palestine" as indivisibly theirs, and seek a "Palestinian" state that extends from Jordan to the Mediterranean sea.

 

The current crop are bought and paid for- but the winds of change are strengthening.

 

the average income in Israel is $2,500. There are about 700,000 Israelis living in the US. Israels cutting its own throat by putting settlements on Palestinian land. . When Israel loses US money they are in deep doo doo.

 

If you want to know something about an organization, then you need to read what the organization itself is saying.

I said that I have sources that will confirm that the Arabs like Hamas is referring the Land of Israel as a waqf land from the period of the Islamic conquest, and I provided a source thatwil confirm such thing

In which paragraph does it say something about DellaPergola's book? I read noth of sources, and in one source there is no source from where it was took, and in the second source that talks about DellaPergola his book and the qoute your provided is not shown.

The Jews of North Africa suffered as well the Holocaust and alot of them were put in concentration camps, and then the nazi regime started to move them to death camps in Europe. Moreover, that the Jews in the Arab countries suffer from riots, laws have been legislated against them in Arab countries etc.

I already did. They got an offer from Ben Gurion to return, but they rejeceted it, as I showed erlier.

 

Ben Gurion was the leader of a brutal Zionist terrorist gang. What form did his ' offer ' take, please ?

 

Moon, have a look at post # 575 of this thread for some more background

 

Well then. Here's so that this will never happen

 

If they are recognized as "owners" in Israeli law, then yes. Problem is its 1953, more than 4 years after they left.

that is a logical fallacy

...Israel rejected a proposal that meant they were responsible for the refugees formerly resident in the land Israel was taking.

The 1953 law did not offer a right of return and did not function to give land back to Palestinians. Please show me the clause that relates to right of return.

Nonetheless, Resolution 194 was passed. It required a right of return which Israel has not honoured.

 

Winds of change? Do you mean, the Arab world will finally crawl into the 8th Century, leaving 7th century behind?

Nah...

 

Well. Before Palestinians achieve this worthy goal, they would like to have "the right of return" so they can come and live in Israel, among the Jews. Why?

I know you know the answer; still, I'd like moon or notme take a shot at answering this one

 

agreed, but the more settlements netanyahu allows the angrier americans get.

 

It was presented to the Arab countries in Lausanne Conference of 1949.

 

The operate clause of UN194:

11. Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property
https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/C758572B78D1CD0085256BCF0077E51A

There's no requirement for any right of return in this GA resolution.

 

In 1953 it was 4 years after they left, but the law refered to those who left their properties behind in the 1948 war.

The word "they" refers to the Arab countries not Israel.

I never suggested that the law of 1953 provided an offer to return, but I said that Ben Gurion in Lausanne Conference of 1949 presented such offer to the Arab countries.

It doesnt mean if it passed then the Arab countries agreed to it. And because they (= the Arab countries) rejected it, then they cant right now use the same resolution they rejected in the case of the refugees because that will make them hypocrites.

 

they offered 100,000 to return out of atleast 710,000 refugees.

sounds like a BS offer.

 

just as many Jews see all the land from the River to the Sea as "Jewish land" and they want to make it one big Apartheid Jewish state

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across the border into the West Bank

 

Only if the law recognised ownership on the date of legislation. Why do you think they waited 4 years? Why do you think there was no such thing as an Israeli citizen for 4 years? A "country" with no citizens, how do you explain that one?

No, it was Israel that refused to accept the people of the land they acquired.

I have already evidenced that the UN considered the "offer" so inadequate they did not even deem to formally put it forward.

Hey, I offer to buy your house for $1? Well its an offer!

No, that is wholly irrelevant. The Arab countries are not the Palestinian refugees. The refugees are represented by the UN task force, not by any Arab country.

 

Because they used "should" instead of "must"?