Israel begins ground offense against Hamas in northern Gaza as the war enters day 20, strike numerou

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm ok with US having Israel to take out the targets + we don't know what else they are planning, we just know you'll complain no matter what.
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess you searched and learned we actually do have US bases in Syria or you would have thrown that at me. Good for you. I have opposed the U.S. supporting Ukraine from the beginning and I oppose the U.S. supporting Israel with weapons. As far as I know we do not have bases in either place but since we do have bases in Syria and Iraq they should be protected or pull them out. Being in harms way doesn’t mean they should be sitting ducks.
     
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    A base it a sitting duck by definition. So far its been mostly harassment, and no injuries, but we'll have to wait and see what comes next from either side.

    Unlike you, I do support US helping Israel, and have always supported that, and I think the Ukraine investment will also pay off in the future. Bases in Syria....I was surprised to learn that, and some are not even in the Kurdish area, so I'm not sure what its all about. The "camp" designation implies a small / temporary base rather than a permanent one, so they might abandon those.
     
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    Israel is the proxy of the US. It can not survive without their weapons and billions in military aid.... a year. Around 10% of the Israeli population are actually Americans with a dual citizenship. The Israeli citizenship got obtained through Israeli apartheid laws. And indeed. The US is already involved in this war. Their bases through the middle east are under attack already.
     
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    No injuries? No one killed? I guess if Americans knew their were they would not be happy. I don’t expect this administration to honest, they can’t afford more heat considering it’s election year.
     
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    We are using Ukraine to fight Russia. What country are we using Israel for to fight our war?
     
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    The two rockets at the Iraqi base were fired from Iraq, and the ones in Syria probably from Syria, so which country should the US attack? Don't you think it makes sense to find out who it was before declaring war on another country. It seems clear they are trying to provoke US into making a mistake.
     
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    Palestine, for the sake to colonize it all. It's a religious conquest as stated in the Torah that the land of Canaan is to be Jewish. It contains the popular story of the Jews committing genocide to obtain those lands. Heck, they even massacred the cattle and the pets. It's done with their God's approval. That is Judaism for you, and ultra conservative Christians also support this religious theme. Surely you've heard about this story.
     
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    Allah is a wicked God, is he not?

    He motivates the Taliban and ISIS, who commit terrible crimes against fellow Muslims.
     
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    Muslim religious leaders disagree. But good for you to remain silent on my previous post.
     
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    Oh I was very not silent. I condemn your claim that Hamas terrorism is ok cuz they have a 1 out of 10 chance of killing a soldier or reservist, who are all "war criminals". That's some evil ****.
     
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    The U.S. is sending money to Palestine. Are we sending money to Russia also?
     
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    I much do taxpayers pay our intel services? Do you think maybe we should get something back? Maybe our new ally? Iraq could help us out? It is their country. Maybe there helping Iran’s proxies?
     
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    You remain silent on:
    Palestine, for the sake to colonize it all. It's a religious conquest as stated in the Torah that the land of Canaan is to be Jewish. It contains the popular story of the Jews committing genocide to obtain those lands. Heck, they even massacred the cattle and the pets. It's done with their God's approval. That is Judaism for you, and ultra conservative Christians also support this religious theme. Surely you've heard about this story.
     
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    Yes, I am silent when it comes to falsehoods. No need to respond to such crap.
     
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    With billions in military aid to fight as a proxy?
     
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    You... Silence=Acceptance
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I am silent when it comes to garbage. I dont respond to garbage.
     
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    Okay good night.
     
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    So no billions in military aid for Palestinians? How could it be a proxy with out that?
    Ah well. Bye bye.
     
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    Pff. How hypocritical that it's somehow "Silence=Acceptance" but the opposite applies to you.
    It's just as hypocritical as saying Israel is committing war crimes, but the soldiers are not.
     
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    I never said no Israeli soldiers commit war crimes.
     
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    All of Hamas' military activities are against Israeli civilians. Which is a war crime. So anyone involved in those activities is a war criminal and a terrorist.

    Sure, if someone is involved in activities that only targets soldiers, that might be legal.

    Funny how you refuse to even condemn Hamas' attacks on children. Is that because someday they will be in the military, so its pro-active killing of soldiers-to-be?
     
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    I don't like to interfere with the hate fest some of you guys like to organize. But even if Israel's policy is to butcher civilians under the pretext of trying to kill Hamas militants, let us not butcher facts as well. Lets be clear: More than 300 IDF soldiers were killed during Hamas' October 7 operation. There were several dozen IDF soldiers and officers (including 2 General officers and some colonels) captured by Hamas. Put differently: Before Hamas could enter the Israeli settlements where civilians were killed, and after it had breached electronic and other defenses set up by Israel, Hamas still faced and overpowered Israeli defense posts on the border and took over several IDF military bases.

    Anyway, sorry for the interruption: please carry on with the hate fest you like to organize. Kill more innocent Palestinians in Gaza and pretend that is because Hamas is hiding among them. Ignore the fact that right across the border is where Hamas' defenses (tunnels where Hamas militants use to protect themselves and their equipment from Israel's aerial bombardment) exist. If Israel is interested in going after Hamas militants and fighters, it can find them there. It doesn't need to cut off water, food, fuel, medicine and such among the people in Gaza while bombing the place to rubble. If that tactic was meant for any purpose other than terrorizing them to submission, you would have seen Hamas' capabilities degraded a bit more than what we have seen!
     
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    All of them 300,000 soldiers surrounding Gaza are actively busy preventing food, water, electricity and medical aid to enter Gaza. Those 300,000 soldiers are supported by an entire chain of command and auxiliary forces, all the way up into the government of Israel and all the way down to a secretary in an IDF office. They are all involved in that war crime, and chipping in.

    And while the bulk of the IDF is busy there, there are also a few who watch over how settlers just massacre around in the WB killing unarmed Arabs and intervene if those Arabs put up a fight to make sure the Jew always wins. Israel is a fascist state where 1 ethnicity is being placed above international law. The IDF, the reserves and it's government are its machine. And you, Ronstar, are their champion refusing to condemn the soldiers committing war crimes, refusing to condemn the people involved the price tag war.... while you previous said you would condemn war crimes, you're just not.

    And here I caught you saying "anyone involved in those activities".... but you're not applying that same logic on the Jewish state unlike on Palestine. Care to explain? We can't be having that we're guessing it's due to racism now can we.
     
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