Israel killed more Palestinians in 2014 than in any other year since 1967

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its propaganda to state the fact that hundreds of thousands of Arabs were forced out of Israel by Zionist forces during and after the 1948 War?

    no sir, these are facts, and denying these facts is nothing but Nakba-Denial.
     
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    Israel has several on-going acts of collective punishment toward the Palestinian people as a whole for such things as voting, agreeing to a unified government, accusations (false) of Hamas in Gaza having responsibility for the horrible deaths of two Israeli teenagers, etc. These can't be justified by ANY normal act of law and group punishment is a crime.

    Israelis are assaulting Palestinians in West Bank in such attacks as those called "price tag" attacks. Typically, the perps identify their own acts as hate inspired. Look it up. See this wiki list of such crimes:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_price_tag_attacks#2015

    Israel's blockade is a continuing act of war which includes such features as regularly shooting at Gazan fishermen fishing Gaza's waters, blocking Palestinian exports, denying Palestine's government to operate in Gaza (leaving it to Hamas!), blocking people from leaving Gaza, blocking entry by those assessing aid needs and crimes. Israel is preventing Gaza from getting fuel (and thus electricity) which is needed for such uses as preserving medicine.

    Israel is refusing to act on the promises they gave in order to achieve the cease fire that is in place today.

    Israel is stealing Gaza's gas reserves.

    Israel is maintaining its crushing assault on the Palestinian economy, including confiscating taxes, thus leaving the government teetering on bankruptcy and unable to meet the needs of its population. The government is rated by Mossad as being its critical partner in security.

    Suggesting this all comes from some rational assessment of security need is absolutely unsupportable. What we're seeing can not possibly come from any source other than some combination of deep hatred (to the point of denying humanity) and the objective of total ethnic cleansing.
     
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    Arabs in Israel are NOT equal and never have been under Israeli government. And, those who left due to the war are not allowed to return to their property - or even to return to their cities. Netanyahu has made explicit movements to legally downgrade all nonJews in Israel (including Christians) to have them officially categorized as having second class citizenship.

    Israel is not clean on its decades long assault on Palestinians. They've regularly used collective punishment, stolen property, forcibly move humans for no other reason than wanting their property, etc. They've also shown NO interest in human life in their blockade of Gaza, denying food, power, medicine, and in their slaughter of civilians and purposeful destruction of civilian infrastructure in the multiple wars that have resulted from their policies.

    The denial of right of return to their own property is recognized as a crime by international law. Claiming that is based on emotion is disgusting. This is a matter of law.
     
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    On the contrary, I won't have to tell my kids that I was on the wrong side of history, that I supported a bunch of lawless terrorists who hid weapons caches in the midst of innocent children.
     
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    Are you from Europe?
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). As usual. You cannot cleanse and genocide one and a half billion people.
     
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    Negative. It qualifies even when it's partially done.

    It's bang on. Since the ethnic cleansing and deliberate destruction of anything Arab was wide spread applied as an Israeli policy for it's Jews.

    That is actually an exceptionally weak reply, not founded on any facts but your own emotion.
     
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    How many is that in numbers? And how do you cleanse Palestinians! With a hose? :roflol:
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    such racist comments are not appreciated.

    how would you react to jokes about Jews in ovens? Probably not very well.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is the first time I hear about Israel using mercenaries alongside the IDF... Care to let me read something about? Something from recognizable source and not bull(*)(*)(*)(*) sites Ike occupiedpalestine?
     
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    You do not have to appreciate it. You have to put the number behind the stupid of the stupidest claims Israel ethnically cleansed 3/4 Palestinians. How many was that?
     
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    Thieving Jews ethnic cleansed about 1/2 million Palestinians. Hence the thieves live in terror of rocket attacks in a totally militarized culture to desperately cling on to what they stole / keep on stealing. Karma is a b*tch.
     
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    several hundred thousand.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    MOD EDIT - Rule 3 lol Jews paid for the land and paid more then them arabs deserved to be paid for. And them arabs should be happy for Jews to build settlements in Judea and Samaria. There's no particular evidence arabs would want that land anyway was it not for Jewish settlements that bring infrastructure, jobs and culture in general to these 7th century peasants. Thats why arabs gather and build their shacks around Jewish settlements.

    Need proof? Tell me what is the difference between barren East and prosperous West Bank? I'll tell you - there are no Jews on the East Bank :roflol:

    MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    You don't mean these arabs who listened to propaganda and voluntarily left their homes to return in a few days behind victorious arab armies?

    Life's a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    How about Hamas which placed it's offensive weapons in them.
     
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    the facts are that hundreds of thousands of Arabs were forced out of Israel in 1948 and 1949.

    its all detailed in Plan Dalet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Dalet
     
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    Companies like G4s in UK contract men and equipment to augment Israeli prisons, the Wall and policing. Similarly, Israeli settlements don't limit themselves to the protection of the national forces of Israel - especially in settlements that not even Israel sees as legal. These settlements are sources of constant irritation and conflict with the surrounding populations as they steal more Palestinian homes and land, destroy Palestinian orchards and property in "price tag" attacks, etc.

    G4s is trying to take a lower profile right now, and it's not easy to find who all else is filling in the slack.

    http://www.g4s.co.il/he-IL/
     
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    Spare me the inane analogies. If Mexicans took high ground on the other side of the Rio Grande and started lobbing rockets at Texas we would attack that ground and if necessary take in order to prevent them from attacking us from there, what else do you think we would do?

    This is about Hamas attacking Israel and living with the results. Stop the attacks and there will be peace.
     
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    Israel will not end the embargo even if Hamas promises to cease all attacks.
     
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    Most of them left voluntarily, been bought out or compensated. Gimmi a break.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that's 100% false.

    around half of the refugees were forced out by Zionist forces.

    its all detailed in Plan Dalet
     
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    Contracted security and prizon guards, and private securities privately contracted and paid for by the communities? These mercenaries? :wall:

    - - - Updated - - -

    So, it's no longer 3/4 , now it's around half? Gimmi a break :roflol:
     
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    I never said 75%.

    and no, this isn't something to joke about. No more than the Holocaust.
     
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    I blame UN for the plight of Palestinians. Don't you?
     

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