"Israel never attacks; Israel only retaliates" - challenged

I have severed my relations with what concerns your warped semantic long ago.
I now discuss events of the day only! I leave the scrapping of old barrels to you and your clique of defamers as nothing, repeat nothing is going to change the status quo. bye,

Suffice to say:-

We were 650,000 Jews against the rest of the Arab world.
No IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) or Air Force. We were only a
Small group of stubborn people with nowhere to go.
היינו 650,000 יהודים כנגד שאר העולם הערבי.
ללא צה"ל (צבא הגנה לישרא&#1500 או חיל אוויר. היינו רק קבוצה קטנה של אנשים עקשנים עם שום מקום לאן ללכת.

Remember: Lebanon , Syria , Iraq , Jordan , Egypt , Libya , and
Saudi Arabia , they all attacked at once. The state that the
United Nations "gave" us was 65% desert. We started it from
Zero.
זכרו: לבנון, סוריה, עירק, ירדן, מצרים, לוב וערב הסעודית, כולם תקפו בעת ובעונה אחת.
המדינה שהאומות המאוחדות "נתנו" לנו הייתה 65% מדבר.
התחלנו את זה מאפס.
Only 45 years ago, we fought three of the strongest countries
In the Middle East , and we crushed them in the Six Day War.

רק לפני 45 שנים, נלחמנו נגד שלוש המדינות החזקות ביותר במזרח התיכון, וריסקנו אותם במלחמת ששת הימים.
Over the years we fought different coalitions of 20 Arab countries
With modern armies and with huge amounts of Russian-Soviet
Ammunition, and we still won.

במהלך השנים נלחמנו בקואליציות שונות של 20 מדינות ערב עם צבאות חדשניים וכמות עצומה של תחמושת רוסית – סובייטית, ועדיין ניצחנו.
Today we have a beautiful country, a powerful Army, a strong
Air Force, an adequate Navy and a thriving high tech industry.
Intel, Microsoft, and IBM have all developed their businesses
Here.
היום יש לנו מדינה יפיפייה, צבא רב עוצמה, חיל אוויר חזק, חיל ים הולם ותעשיית הי-טק משגשגת.
אינטל, מיקרוסופט, ו- I.B.M פיתחו כולם את עסקיהם כאן.
Our doctors have won important prizes in the medical
Development field.

הרופאים שלנו זכו בפרסים חשובים בתחום הפיתוח הרפואי.
We turned the desert into a prosperous land.
הפכנו את המדבר לאדמה פורחת ומשגשגת.
We sell oranges, flowers, and vegetables around the world.

אנחנו מוכרים תפוזים, פרחים וירקות בכל רחבי העולם.
We launched our own satellite! Three satellites at once! We
Are in good company; together with the USA (280 million
Residents), Russia (220 million residents), China (1.3
Billion residents) and Europe ( France , England and Germany
35 million residents), we are one of the only countries in the
World that have launched something into space!
שיגרנו את הלווין שלנו! שלושה לווינים בעת ובעונה אחת! אנחנו בחברה טובה: יחד עם ארה"ב (280 מיליון תושבי&#1501, רוסיה (220 מיליון תושבי&#1501, סין (1.2 ביליון תושבי&#1501 ואירופה (צרפת, אנגליה וגרמניה 35 מיליון תושבי&#1501, אנחנו אחת מהמדינות הבודדות בעולם ששיגרו משהו לחלל!
Israel today is among the few powerful countries that have
Nuclear technology & capabilities. ( We will never admit it,
But everyone knows.)

ישראל היום היא בין המדינות הבודדות החזקות, שהיא בעלת טכנולוגיה ויכולות גרעיניות. (אנחנו לעולם לא נודה בזה, אבל כולם יודעי&#1501.
To think that only 68 years ago we were disgraced and
Hopeless.

לחשוב שרק לפני 68 שנים היינו מבוישים וחסרי תקווה.
We crawled out from the burning crematoriums of Europe .
We won in all our wars. With a little bit of nothing we built
An empire.
Who are Khaled Mashal (leader of Hamas) or Hassan Nasrallah
(leader of Hezbollah) trying to frighten us? They are amusing us.

זחלנו החוצה מהמשרפות הבוערות של אירופה.
ניצחנו בכל המלחמות שלנו. עם מעט מכלום בנינו אימפריה.
מי אלו חלאד משעל (מנהיג החמא&#1505 או חסאן נסראללה (מנהיג החיזבאלל&#1492 המנסים להפחיד אותנו? הם משעשעים אותנו.
As we celebrate Independence Day, let's not forget what this
Holy day is all about; we overcame everything.

בזמן שאנחנו חוגגים את יום העצמאות, בואו לא נשכח מהי המהות של היום הקדוש הזה: התגברנו על הכל.
We overcame the Greeks,
התגברנו על היוונים,
We overcame the Romans,

התגברנו על הרומאים,
We overcame the Spanish Inquisition,

התגברנו על האינקוויזיציה הספרדית,
We overcame the Russians pogrom,
התגברנו על הפוגרום הרוסי,
We overcame Hitler , we overcame Germany and overcame the
Holocaust,
התגברנו על היטלר, התגברנו על גרמניה והתגברנו על השואה,
We overcame the armies of seven countries.
התגברנו על הצבאות של 7 מדינות
Relax chevray (friends), we will overcome our current enemies.
הירגעו חבר'ה, אנחנו נתגבר גם על האויבים הנוכחים
Never mind where you look in human history. Think about it,
The Jewish nation, our condition has never been better than now.
So let's lift our heads up and remember:

לא משנה לאן שנביט בהיסטוריה האנושית. תחשבו על זה, העם היהודי, מצבנו מעולם לא היה טוב יותר מאשר עכשיו.
אז בואו נישא ראשנו מעלה וזכרו:
Never mind which country or culture tries to harm us or erase us
From the world. We will still exist and persevere. Egypt ? Anyone
Know where the Egyptian empire disappeared to? The Greeks?
Alexander Macedon? The Romans? Is anyone speaking Latin
Today? The Third Reich? Did anyone hear news from them lately?
לא משנה איזו מדינה או תרבות מנסה לפגוע בנו או למחוק אותנו מהעולם. אנחנו עדיין קיימים ושמורים.
מצריים? מישהו יודע לאן האימפריה המצרית נעלמה? היוונים? אלכסנדר מוקדון? הרומאים? האם מישהו מדבר לטינית היום? הרייך השלישי? האם מישהו שמע חדשות מהם לאחרונה?
And look at us, the Bible nation – from slavery in Egypt , we are
Still here, still speaking the same language.
Exactly here, exactly now.

והסתכלו עלינו, העם התנ"כי – מעבדות במצרים, אנחנו עדיין כאן, עדיין מדברים את אותה השפה.
בדיוק כאן, בדיוק עכשיו.
Maybe The Arabs don't know it yet, but we are an eternal nation.
All the time that we will keep our identity, we will stay eternal.

אולי הערבים עדיין לא יודעים את זה, אבל אנחנו עם נצחי.
כל זמן שנשמור על זהותנו, נשאר נצחיים.
So, sorry that we are not worrying, complaining, crying, or fearing…

אז סליחה שאנחנו לא דואגים, מתלוננים, בוכים או פוחדים.....
Business here is beseder (fine). It can definitely be much better,
But it is still fine. Don't pay attention to the nonsense in the media,
They will not tell you about our festivals here in Israel or about the
People that continue living, going out, meeting friends.
העסקים כאן בסדר. זה בהחלט יכול להיות טוב יותר, אבל זה עדיין בסדר. אל תשימו לב לשטויות בתקשורת, הם לא יספרו לכם על החגיגות שלנו כאן בישראל או על האנשים שממשיכים לחיות, לצאת ולפגוש חברים.
Yes, sometimes morale is down, so what? This is only because we
Are mourning the dead while they are celebrating spilled blood. And
This is the reason we will win after all.

נכון, לפעמים המורל נמוך, אז מה? זה רק בגלל שאנו מבכים את המתים בזמן שהם חוגגים על דם שנשפך. וזו הסיבה לכך שאנו ננצח למרות הכל.
Please forward this e-mail to all of your Jewish friends and non-Jewish friends.
Everywhere in the world. You are all part of our force to
Keep our existence.
בבקשה העבירו מייל זה לכל חבריכם היהודים, בכל מקום בעולם. כולכם חלק במאמץ שלנו לשמור את קיומנו.
This e-mail may help some of us lift our heads up and be
Proud to say:

מייל זה עשוי לעזור לחלק מאיתנו לשאת את ראשינו מעלה ולהיות גאים לומר:
I AM A JEW

 

Yes, it wasn't an assault on Israeli territory because they never got close. The facts are clear, aren't they?

That you would think that Sadat et.al. would have stopped at the Israeli border had they been successful in their assaults in the Sinai and Golan, in defiance of human nature, arab political will, arab social/religious concept of blood revenge, seems a tad odd considering your impressive knowledge of events.

 

Arabs behave like a pack of wolves when they are numerous and can inflict enough damage... also Arabs in general do plunder, rape, destroy property, harm people and behave like people on hashish... Look what is going on in France, there is not a day that attack and mayhem is facilitated in 170 enclaves <NO ENTRY ZONES> where the French Police is reluctant to go in... while the miscreants are dealing in dope of all kind to make a living. Is this why the French authorities accepted these <LOW LIVES> in France? Tourism has stopped, Paris does not look the same it is disheveled, people are cautious, some even refuse to visit bars, Moulin Rouge, theatres or charming eateries, oh yes Paris does not look the same alright!

And the majority here want Israel to create yet another Arab State in the heart of the Jewish Patrimony? Perish the thought!

Coming soon to

&#8203;America and &#8203;

Australia!…

PARIS

-- Watch before it's censored

This is unbelievable, interesting and true

http://www.youtube.com/embed/A3YQANdvvbY

If you're brave, watch some of the other Muslim videos that appear after this one finishes.&#8203;

 

I guess the irony of your own bigotry is lost on you.

Do these videos represent the thoughts of all arabs?

Does Likud represent the thoughts of all Israelis? Or maybe Shas, who advocate for Halakha for all of Israel? Or the Jewish Home?

 

No bigotry here but just <HONEST TRUTH>!!! If these VIDEOS do not explain it in details then who is lying and who is prejudging with fallacious slogan?

We have more than 12 x parties and the country is governed by coalition Just for your information. If you call me bigot then the whole country is... based on these people's murders, theft and rape... I hope you will never experience this in your country...

I never hinted that ALL Muslims are terrorists but I am certainly a witness that in those past 20 years the majority of terrorists caught were Muslims

 

I am familiar with the parliamentary political system as well as what coalition governments are all about.

I call you a bigot for your outrageous generalizations excoriating an entire ethnic group. IN this case arabs.

As for your videos, they certainly do demonstrate the capacity for self delusion and hatred that humans can have. Sadly they are representative of a group of people whose perverse interpretation of their religion encourages them to hate.

But you have stated your opinion of all Arabs, and if you don't think that is expressing bigotry, then I strongly suggest you do some research into this all too common human foible.

 

My friend we go back a while and you have stated the same in the past.
I might be a little older than you and my experience on the subject matter is infinite.

I wish you well this 2015 year of critical decisions, I hope it has the capacity to change your tune when it hits home! No reflection on anyone but as you know history repeats itself.

 

I am 61 years old. How old are you?

You do realize that "personal experience" is anecdotal evidence and is fallacious when its used to make sweeping generalizations, don't you?

 

A little more than that... I am very happy you take things so lightly...
Nothing I declared is anecdotal and there is no <sweeping generalizations> in anything I stated.
Maybe some of my English is fading away translating my thoughts from Hebrew.
I am still confident that you would appreciate this honest reply.

 

Read Ostrovsky's By Way of Deception and Beit-Hallahmi's The Israeli Connection to learn of Israel's imperialistic terrorism. Both writers are Israeli Jews who write the TRUTH.

 

Sorry, but you said:

that is a completely bigoted statement that includes a sweeping generalization.

 

I really do not care what you think Jonsa... but with due respect to you and the readers, Ihave all these videos to back me up... I did not mean to implicate all Muslims like they do to Jews from the inception of 'Islam' in the seventh Century.

Please read the Qur'an, you will get all the answers, and try to be in my shoes for a few hours... I hope you have a wonderful day.

 

you can also read all sorts of violent and hateful (*)(*)(*)(*) in the Talmud, which is considered to be the Oral Law of God.

 

Even when confronted with your own words you refuse to accept your statements about arabs as being bigoted. And then claim that anecdotal videos represent all arabs.

We weren't talking about Muslims we were discussing Arabs.


Okay, I hope you have a wonderful day as well.

 

99% of ARABS are MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

more like 90%.

seems you think the terms are interchangeable, when clearly they are not.

 

ISRAEL DOES NOT INITIATE, BUT ISRAEL WOULD RETALIATE

To illustrate the above, I am posting the statements designs of Iran on the <Land Mass of Israel> to be conquered under historically false pretenses...
I am asking the initiators of this thread if Israel should roll with the punches and be decimated in an unecessary war or obliterate the enemy once and for all.

Imagine the Arabs of Ramallah dancing in the streets and distributing sweets when they will get the news of the Iranian designs and desires. Now all of you will start calling Israel all kind of names. Jonsa you cannot shower my country and I with your pejorative... unless of course you too feel the pressure.

Iran must strengthen foothold in West Bank: IRGC commander
PRESSTV (Iran) Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:43PM

http://presstv.com/Detail/2015/01/31/395547/Iran-must-secure-foothold-in-W-Bank

A senior commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) says it has
become a necessity for Iran to enhance its powerbase in the West Bank.

Brigadier General Iraj Masjedi said Saturday that Iran must try to increase
its military power in the West Bank as well as the Gaza Strip in order to
contain Israel inside the occupied territories.

“We must contain Israel … so that it never dares to speak about a missile
attack on Iran, we must reinforce our power in the West Bank and Gaza,” said
Masjedi, who serves as top advisor to commander of IRGC Quds Force.

The high-ranking commander urged the Palestinian movements inside the West
Bank to stop negotiating with Israelis and instead, engage in armed
resistance against the Tel Aviv regime.

“The Palestine Liberation Organization must know that what brings them
victory is not political negotiation but only resistance and (military)
power, and this is what Hezbollah and Hamas have been doing,” Masjedi said
while addressing a conference in the northeastern city of Mashhad.

Hezbollah attack just the beginning

The Iranian commander also elaborated on the recent retaliatory attack by
Hezbollah fighters in south Lebanon which killed two Israeli soldiers and
left nine more injured. The attack was in response to Israel’s killing of
six Hezbollah fighters and an Iranian commander on January 18 in the Syrian
Golan Heights.

Masjedi described Hezbollah as a “powerful” and “wise” organization which
never makes any uncalculated, hasty decision.

He said Israelis call Hezbollah chief Seyyed Hassan Nasrallah as the “honest
man,” meaning that they trust his words when he warns about retaliation.

“Hezbollah’s recent action was not the ultimate response to the Zionist
regime,” he warned the Israelis.

Commenting on Iran’s assistance to Hezbollah, the commander said Iran’s
support has enabled the resistance group defend itself against the Israelis.

“Hezbollah … has gained the power to deter the threats and make the enemy
regret its acts of aggression in all forms of confrontation,” he said.

MS/HMV/SS
________________________________________
IMRA - Independent Media Review and Analysis

 

You are talking about Israel culture with Israelis, the Roman destruction is etched in the Jewish AND Israeli culture as the "9th of Av" feast - "Tisha B'Av".

From Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tisha_B%27Av

Israelis mark and mourn the destruction as I tried to educate you, the Exile was subsequent to the destruction as I also tried to explain, if you had some humility in you you would listen to ppl about what they think instead of telling them what they think. this enitre thread is as stupid as I just made clear. an African - probebly Muslim - activist telling others what they think and taught in school.

 

Did you read the Talmud or the Nazi "critic" version of the Talmud ?

The Talmud mentions death penelties to criminals and while sound unfair as in other "Barbarian" culture laws from 2,500 years ago....it doesnt mention an existing nation as "evil" that will be destroyed in judgment day as in the Quran - which makes some Jews uncomfortable with.

 

I like this (red) retort... I would not change a thing in it for it is true.

 

I have indeed read many sections of the Talmud.

 

We are aware that Israel is governed by a coalition that has an active policy for decades to ethnic cleanse beyond their borders to replace the Arabs with your Jews bit by bit,.. or in other words, murder and thieve your way to enlarge your country. It's that policy that makes the Israeli government a bunch of war criminals, and their civilian voters are not innocent but got blood on their hands.

 

Quote, please.

 

I wonder if there will be a quote pasted in this thread.

 

Besides the hiding behind rocks and bushes, Jews are told in a negetive way in the Quran, they betrayed Muhhamad etc', you know what im talking about, one has to be creative in order to justify his good relations with Jews.