Israel Targets Convoy of Ambulances Leaving Hospital

It's not clear when the operation began? WTF you on about? It doesn't matter when it began. It's illegal to use POW's to do such extremely dangerous work, and they were forced to do that. It's a war crime.

Oh they use all kinds of legal argument. But the fact is they are breaching international law left and right. All them colonies they got going are clear and simple war crimes. That Israel refuses to acknowledge it's occupied territory is just tossing in nonsense to make a fake reality sort of explainable for people to accept as plausible. And Israel admits they bombarded this convoy. It's a flat out illegal and a war crime to do so. The only escape is that they know that Hamas was using it. They tossed something like that in, but they are not able to prove it. So it stands that those people who they massacred are all innocent and Israel made a war crime.

 

You believe the raping terrorists. We get it.

 

It looks we are living in different worlds, because it looks that you information that 'The Jewish state claims it had to be done because Hamas was near' is sucked out of one's thumb.

In my world we have different information:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/03/middleeast/casualties-gazas-shifa-hospital-idf/index.html
"Israel said it had targeted the ambulance because it was being used by Hamas, according to a statement from the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). “An IDF aircraft struck an ambulance that was identified by forces as being used by a Hamas terrorist cell in close proximity to their position in the battle zone,” it wrote.
“A number of Hamas terrorist operatives were killed in the strike… We have information which demonstrates that Hamas’ method of operation is to transfer terror operatives and weapons in ambulances,” the statement said."

So as I said before - we can believe that Israel Defense Forces is telling the truth or we can believe that Hamas is telling the truth.

Your statement "but they can't prove what they say is true. Innocent until proven guilty applies, unless you think a racist has special rights" shows that you know about law and war as much as you know about racism or apartheid. You probably think that any soldiers who shots enemy before first consulting a layer to see proof of guilty or innocent is a racist. Well - maybe in your alternative universe this is how wars are conducted. Who was Hamas lawyer on Oct 7 in your universe?

 

Investigate all you want, Hamas is using Hospitals, Schools and anything that is in their grasp that IDF cannot target, we will prove it once we get in there - and we will.
Hamas mistake is thinking that they can hide behind ppl like you while they carry their carnage on us.
I'll be direct with you and every "critic-enemy" we have here:
Nothing will stop us from destroying Hamas this time. Hamas started its "final" war on us and we will finish it.

Have a nice day.

 

That's your lie, no one said 40 babies were beheaded.
Denying what your heroes did wont help either of you

 

Rape an idea? Good heavens, get a grip.

 

Did Tine burn Ike children ? did Ike gang rape Tina to death and made a video about it ?
I bet you feel real smart, be assured that no matter how many American students will protest against us, no matter how many Jews you and your friends will attack, Israel will destroy Hamas in Gaza, and then we'll clear out the WB of Hamas.

 

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I'll be willing to venture this bet: Hamas will remain in effective control of Gaza when this war ends. Not only that, eventually and in due course, they will be an even more potent force than they were before October 7. Israel can throw a fit, bomb as many apartment buildings, hospitals, schools, ambulances, UN staff, journalists, children, elderly, women, babies, etc it wishes to. That won't reduce Hamas' fighting capabilities and will only leave Israel more isolated. To even fight Hamas, Israel will need to take the fight where Hamas is: in its underground tunnels and bases and inside Gaza city in hand-to-hand urban fighting. Israel has only begun waging war on Hamas; until now, it has been mostly fighting the people of Gaza.

 

They seem to be destroying the infrastructure in Gaza, including tunnel systems. I think Hamas is feeling the pressure.

 

You are wrong.
IDF has already closed on Gaza city and they reveal and bomb tunnels every day, we've seen evidence of that, you will remain clueless as long as you watch Al Jazira as sole input.
Bet is on.

 

I don't call effective control the inability to have any control over one's own electricity or water. Hamas never had effective control.

Hamas may have people fighting in Gaza but that is not effective control. It's simply resistance.

 

I watch different sources, including those from Israel. There has been ferocious fighting on the periphery and suburbs of Gaza city and some limited incursions into Gaza city. But Israel's claim that it has succeeded in encircling and closing off Gaza city has not been confirmed even by CNN's journalists embedded with the IDF on the frontlines. Those journalists work under strict IDF censorship guidelines and yet have merely repeated and quoted what the IDF has said on that point, while reporting seeing fierce fighting on IDF's flanks in Gaza's outskirts.

Incidentally, Israel has bombed some ambulances in southern Lebanon too. They have killed journalists and UN workers in southern Lebanon as well. I guess Hamas fighters were hiding there too! Or maybe Israel can't find all the Hezbollah fighters all over Lebanon and has to find them in ambulances and among UN staff and media!

 

They are indeed destroying Gaza's infrastructure but no evidence they have managed to degrade Hamas' fighting capability through the limited tunnel networks they have hit. Otherwise, Hamas wouldn't be able to coordinate regular rocket attacks against Israel (even today) while putting up fierce resistance on the ground in Gaza.

 

You are wrong again, there are no "CNN journalists embedded with the IDF", they were allowed to the outskirts for a limited time only. we did see our own media go in with the IDF and it was into some very urbanized area.

I don't trust terrorist media thou its fun to watch sometimes - I saw an interview of some Lebanese official - not Hizbullah - he said Lebanon was attacked by Israel and so they are defending! - now how does that sit with you ? can you tell me what was the "first" Israeli attack on Lebanon since Oct 7th ?

 

Making a pointless observation into a longer statement does not magically make a point.

English not your first language?

 

shway shway

 

Only ambulances are proven to have been destroyed, not people. You understand there’s a difference between a person and a marked vehicle right?

 

By 'effective control' once the fighting ends, I'm alluding to something else. Specifically, to pave the way for a ceasefire, behind the scenes Hamas could give a green light to the PA being nominally in charge of Gaza, while Hamas exercises effective control...

 

Pretty shaky moral ground you are standing on.....“From the River to the Sea Palestine Will be Free”

 

In the meantime:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...n-population-should-go-to-ireland-or-deserts/
Far-right minister: Nuking Gaza is an option, population should ‘go to Ireland or deserts’

Which then gives a chance to Netanyahu to look statesmen like, even as the comment once again breaches both its nuclear ambiguity policy and no first use of nukes pledge (with the message intended once again delivered, as was the case with Netanyahu's supposed misstatement recently calling for the US et al to deliver a credible threat to use nukes against Iran).

https://www.politico.eu/article/isr...njamin-netanyahu-nuclear-bomb-gaza-hamas-war/
Israel minister suspended after calling nuking Gaza an option
Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu’s statements ‘are not based in reality,’ Prime Minister Netanyahu says.

 

And you still think its just another round....

 

apparently, the Russians are doing that too-mainly to male Ukranian prisoners but it seems "turds of a feather" ......

 

Apparently you are unable to see the difference between Hamas and innocent Palestinians.

 

Nobody said it was going to be easy