Israel used depleted uranium in airstrike on Syria: Report

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  1. Jack Napier

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    A senior Syrian official says Israel has used depleted uranium in its recent airstrike against the Jamraya Research Center in the outskirts of Damascus.


    The official, who was present near the attack site on Sunday morning, told Russia Today that Israel used "a new type of weapon" during the airstrike.

    “When the explosion happened, it felt like an earthquake,” the official, who asked not to be named, added.


    “Then a giant golden mushroom of fire appeared. This tells us that Israel used depleted uranium shells,” the Syrian official said.

    “Several civilian factories and buildings were destroyed. The target was just an ordinary weapons warehouse. The bombing is an ultimatum to us,” he added.

    The Syrian official also refuted the claims by Western intelligence sources that the airstrike targeted transfers of weapons from the Lebanese resistance movement Hezbollah to Syria.

    Jamraya Research Center had been targeted by another Israeli airstrike back in January.

    The Sunday attack came shortly after Tel Aviv confirmed that its warplanes had hit another target in Syria on Friday.

    On Saturday, US President Barack Obama said the Israeli regime has the right to launch airstrikes on Syria.

    Syria’s Foreign Ministry has sent letters to the United Nations and its Security Council stating that Israel’s aggression shows the link between Tel Aviv and terrorist groups operating in Syria including the al-Qaeda-linked al-Nusra Front.

    Meanwhile, the anti-Syria countries including Turkey and several Arab states in the region have been mum on Tel Aviv’s acts of aggression against Syria.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/06/302129/israel-hit-syria-using-depleted-uranium/

    As I said all along, Israel and their goy toys in Congress + London, in conjunction with hired mercenary Saudi trained killers, have been behind the so called 'civil war', from the get go.

    As time has gone on, more and more of their mask has slipped, indeed, they did not even wear a mask, for the US and others lent their 'support' to the terro/rebels, right from the off, while, as per usual, other nations like Russia were condemning of this, and rightly so, and they maintained a more mature and dignified position, of that there is no doubt at all.

    Anyone who still puts faith in, or makes excuses for our Gov's various, who have collaborated with terrorists various, to engineer civil unrest, is either one of them, dense beyond belief, or simply do care that their nation has been usurped by the worse of people.

    No wonder bad thing happen in your own country, when those whose arse some kiss have their claws in so many puss filled pies, around the world, and by doing so, they blowback is never to them (they are safe), it is to you.

    If you cannot see how such men endanger you and your future generations more than anyone, then there is no hope for you, please do not breed.

    And now, there will be the usual yammer, and wailing, and whining, from the usual extremists on here, who will whine about the source, and whinge about something else, but I shall say this..

    If the allegations are true, then surely all can see that Israel are a blight, and a danger to the world, and it is not merely about Gaza, as some want to make it.
     
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    Depleted uranium doesn't explode. It is used as bullets and anti-tank armor piercing shell due to it's density. Since the israeli airplane never even entered syrian airspace, it is imposible for them to have used such close range weapons.
     
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    Jack, your source is beneath being whined about, so I won't. All I want to say is that your posts on Israel remind me of the real famous Russian basnya (short satirical poem), in which a small insignificant dog is barking at the elephant, being walked on the street :)
     
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    What are 'goy toys' Jack?:roflol:
     
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    Don't answer that!

    This is a family forum!
     
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    Maybe you should learn what depleted uranium shells actually are.
     
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    I don't want to speculate what happened, but if it was a weapons store or ammo dump being hit, this should certainly cause the golden fire mushroom looking explosion. A "mushroom cloud" however isn't a feature of DU munitions in and of themselves. So I would tell this un-named Syrian official he doesn't know what he's talking about. They are used for their density, giving them a powerful anti-tank punch great for piercing tanks and bunkers... They don't however produce a nuclear fission reaction.. They aren't like mini-nukes in that regard.. Although they do irradiate the land because the metal is toxic and so their use should be avoided.
     
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    Meh, all serious scientific studies into the matter (and there have been many) demonstrate that the use of DU ammunition has no measurable health or environmental effects. You would literally have to eat the DU for it to harm you and I'm that eating lead bullets isn't good for ones health either.
     
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    For example...
     
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    Studies indicating negligible effects

    Studies in 2005 and earlier have concluded that DU ammunition has no measurable detrimental health effects.

    A 1999 literature review conducted by the Rand Corporation stated: "No evidence is documented in the literature of cancer or any other negative health effect related to the radiation received from exposure to depleted or natural uranium, whether inhaled or ingested, even at very high doses,"[116] and a RAND report authored by the U.S. Defense department undersecretary charged with evaluating DU hazards considered the debate to be more political than scientific.[117]

    A 2001 oncology study concluded that "the present scientific consensus is that DU exposure to humans, in locations where DU ammunition was deployed, is very unlikely to give rise to cancer induction".[118] Former NATO Secretary General Lord Robertson stated in 2001 that "the existing medical consensus is clear. The hazard from depleted uranium is both very limited, and limited to very specific circumstances".[119]

    A 2002 study from the Australian defense ministry concluded that "there has been no established increase in mortality or morbidity in workers exposed to uranium in uranium processing industries... studies of Gulf War veterans show that, in those who have retained fragments of depleted uranium following combat related injury, it has been possible to detect elevated urinary uranium levels, but no kidney toxicity or other adverse health effects related to depleted uranium after a decade of follow-up."[120] Pier Roberto Danesi, then-director of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Seibersdorf +Laboratory, stated in 2002 that "There is a consensus now that DU does not represent a health threat".[121]

    The IAEA reported in 2003 that, "based on credible scientific evidence, there is no proven link between DU exposure and increases in human cancers or other significant health or environmental impacts," although "Like other heavy metals, DU is potentially poisonous. In sufficient amounts, if DU is ingested or inhaled it can be harmful because of its chemical toxicity. High concentration could cause kidney damage." The IAEA concluded that while depleted uranium is a potential carcinogen, there is no evidence that it has been carcinogenic in humans.[122]

    A 2005 study by Sandia National Laboratories' Al Marshall used mathematical models to analyze potential health effects associated with accidental exposure to depleted uranium during the 1991 Gulf War. Marshall's study concluded that the reports of cancer risks from DU exposure are not supported by his analysis nor by veteran medical statistics. Marshall also examined possible genetic effects due to radiation from depleted uranium.[123] Chemical effects, including potential reproductive issues, associated with depleted uranium exposure were discussed in some detail in a subsequent journal paper.[124]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium#Studies_indicating_negligible_effects
     
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    You must not have noticed this on the same page:

    You did say all serious studies, but that's not really true. Also, I wonder what caused all the extra recent birth defects in Fallujah.
     
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    Syrian officials must be pretty darn stupid. What am I saying - of course Syrian officials are stupid.
     
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    Not everybody is capable of understanding what depleted uranium is or how it is used in projectiles.
     
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    “Then a giant golden mushroom of fire appeared. This tells us that Israel used depleted uranium shells,”

    Those Syrian officers might have been on some 'shrooms themselves!
     
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    That explains all those Syrian government officials visiting Oregon for vacation and bringing all those baggies.......
     
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    Jack you go on and on about the collusion with the jews and that they and their pals are behind the civil war in syria and then after spewing you cop out a the very end with "if the allegations are true"?

    You are supposed to qualify your conspiracy paranoia BEFORE you go on a rant, not after.
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    Depleted uranium is basically harmless in solid form. However, breathing in the dust from impact greatly increases exposure.

    For example, it is safely possible to hold a piece of plutonium metal (only a few grams, since it is fissionable, if too much is brought together there could be a chain reaction). However, even a tiny spec of plutonium can kill if breathed into the lungs. Another example, mercury amalgam fillings is generally safe, but there was an incident where some robbers killed themselves trying to separate the silver out of tooth fillings by boiling out the mercury. It becomes much more dangerous when volatized into the air.

    http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q754.html
     
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    The study conducted by Kang was not a study on DU exposure, they did not offer a hypothesis as to the cause of the statistics. I tried to get to the full study through the citation but it is a pay site, however, the abstract is available and nowhere is depleted uranium even mentioned:

    Abstract

    PURPOSE: We evaluated an association between veterans' Gulf War service and reported adverse pregnancy outcomes.

    METHODS: We conducted a health survey in which selected reproductive outcomes of a population-based sample of 15,000 Gulf War veterans representing four military branches and three unit components (active, reserve, and National Guard) were compared to those of 15,000 non-Gulf veteran controls.

    RESULTS: Male Gulf veterans, compared with their non-Gulf veteran controls, reported a significantly higher rate of miscarriage (odds ratio [OR] = 1.62; 95% confidence interval [CI] = 1.32–1.99). Female Gulf veterans also reported more miscarriages than their respective controls, although their excess was not statistically significant (OR= 1.35; CI = 0.97–1.89). Both men and women deployed to the Gulf theater reported significant excesses of birth defects among their liveborn infants. These excess rates also extended to the subset of “moderate to severe” birth defects [males: OR= 1.78 (CI = 1.19–2.66); females: OR = 2.80 (CI = 1.26–6.25)]. No statistically significant differences by deployment status were found among men or women for stillbirths, pre-term deliveries or infant mortality.

    CONCLUSION: The risk of veterans reporting birth defects among their children was significantly associated with veteran's military service in the Gulf War. This observation needs to be confirmed by a review of medical records to rule out possible reporting bias.


    http://www.annalsofepidemiology.org/article/PIIS1047279701002459/abstract

    There could be several reasons for these statistics eg the meds that were given to soldiers in the case of exposure to Saddam's biological weapons which is IMHO more likely due to the fact that these were all soldiers who were depoloyed thus they were given those meds, but would only have had short term exposure to DU and most of them would have had no exposure to DU whatsoever at least no more exposure than troops who were not deployed and who were used as the control group which were not given the meds because they were not deployed.
     
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    YOU FOOLS !!

    Didn't you notice that there are none Pro arab posts here ... The OP is probably smiling some where is Gaza..
    This is a pure nonsense thread, let it sink back to the toilet of history.. each reply ( including mine ) bumps the thread to the Top.
    Byeeee
     
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    Thank you for your thoughtful responses to me!
     
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    You'll never get a serious report from any U.S. source on the effects of DU. it's our sacred cow, cant kill tanks with any other small package. DU is just as toxic a metal and is 60% as radioactive as natural uranium. aerosol exposure contamiantes areas for a very long time and dont go away.
     
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    So the WHO and IAEA are branches of the US government?
     
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    Yes, the evidence from Iraq is suggesting you are right

    full storyhttp://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/03/2013315171951838638.html

    but wtf some people seem dead set on WW3, nothing stops them it seems until they have destroyed this planet one way or another with one method or another while everyone stays silent.................
     
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    I am convinced that DU is deadly as I believe my friend died from it after a tour in Yugo. An otherwise healthy man of fifty, non smoker, non drinker with no family history of cancer suddenly found riddled with it everywhere. That said, it is the duty of a government to save the lives of it's soldiers not be nice to the enemy and, if they have a weapon available that can do that then they cannot be blamed for using it.
     

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