Israeli official calls for concentration camps in Gaza

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    Israel used Palestinian's as human shields during Cast Lead. This is an undeniable fact - a fact that you seem intent on denying because you are an apologist for Israeli crimes. I don't deny the fact that Hamas have committed war crimes including using Palestinian's as human shields, yet you are in denial of the fact that Israel is also culpable. This is because you are ideologically welded to one side, Israel, as opposed to adopting a rational and objective stance. So please clear this up will you once and for all?. Despite the evidence to the contrary, do you, old chap, deny the fact that Israel as well as Hamas have been responsible for war crimes including using Palestinian's as human shields? A simple yes or no will suffice.
     
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    Because you only selectively read a comprehend what you want to at any given time.
     
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    human shields or not, launching military attacks from densely populated areas and storing weapons in civilian buildings, is a war crime. :)

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    Justice? The absurd demand for infinite "justice" is why the Palestinians still don't have a state.
     
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    Not as an across the board policy but rather by individuals and since then it is ruled as illegal and those who do it face criminal charges, now, back to today where Israel has no nor ever did have an official policy of using human shields so, you were not a good chap and failed to prove they do have one like Hamas does.
     
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    Hamas fires too many rockets from the city, so its not a human shield operation, no matter how you spin it.

    The Afghanistan invasion is UN approved - thats why its forces are called ISAF.

    The Libya actions all fell under the auspices of resolution 1973. Thats why no legal action or strong criticism has been made.

    The West Bank and Gaza strip, including East Jerusalem are not disputed, they are occupied. Either way settlement and annexation is not permitted. Most Britons and Kazahkstanis recognise that.
     
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    Oh not as policy but as individuals, over and over again eh?

    A mealy mouthed cowardly response if ever there was one.

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    Fighting in urban areas is not prohibited by international law.

    Nothing is stopping them having a state except Israel.
     
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    Many rockets from densely populated areas = many war crimes and routine use of human shields.

    the presense of forces of Afghanistan was approved by the UN AFTER the invasion, the invasion was not sanctioned and was thus illegal.

    The Lybian mandate was for peace-keeping, establishing a no-fly zone and forcing a ceasefire, not becoming the rebels' air force

    The occupation of the west bank is legal in line with UN 242, the occupation of Gaza would also be legal but Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza. What most britons (let alone Scots) think about it is frankly totally irrelevant. The nation has proven to be a brainwashed, criminal, hateful yet obidient America's lapdog. I hate to break it to you mate but you are as irrelevant as Kazakhstan - political dwarf.
     
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    No they do matter, but not nearly as much as what is being done to them by Israel.

    All you are doing is coming up with bogus excuses designed to let Israel off the hook and look elsewhere?

    Are you certain that this position of yours is pro-peace? Cause it awfully resembles the pro-Israel one.
     
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    Fighting from urban areas is not prohibited, so its not war crimes and its not human shields.

    The forces cant get there without an invasion, and the UN didnt condemn it at the time, and approved it later - thus its legal.

    No actions fell outwith the resolution.

    Occupations are indeed legal. Settlement and punishment of entire populations are not. Hate to break it to you mate but what most Kazahkstanis think is even more irrelevant, even still they mostly agree with me, not you....
     
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    Your participation in the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan were without the resolution and were thus illegal, so was your war in the Falklands, so was your enormous "mission creep" in Libya... I don't particularly care about UN and its resolution as you well know, but you moan about the UN, war crimes and your whitewashing of your own violations and war crimes committed by Hamas is quite ironic.


    Speaking of Hamas, fighting in urban areas is not prohibited.....intentional co-location of military targets (like rocket launchers) and civilians (like ...ahem... school yards, hospitals, you know) is considered to be the use of human shields and a war crime.


    What you Brits (and specifically Scots) and what we here in Kazakhstan think is irrelevant, both countries are third world sh*tholes and lapdogs, you are America's, Kazakhstan is Russia's. As far as you are concerned, you've long become the capital of violent Islam....It's well documented that every Islamic gang banned for its extremism in the muslim world finds its new home in London. You call it freedom of speech...but then you refuse to publish anti-Hamas ads. Duh. A proud nation has turned into such horrible disgrace in just one century or so. Sad :(
     
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    I've told you many times that firing rockets at Israeli towns is a war crimes, attacks on Hamas rocket launchers are legitimate military operations...And pro-Israel is pro-peace, it was quiet until Hamas decided to start a war and kidnapped and murdered in cold blood 3 israeli teenagers... But as you said in your view Hamas crimes barely matter.
     
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    Afghanistan was and is a UN approved operation to defend the populace from the Taliban.

    The Falklands operation was self defence.

    Both operations are thus legal under international law.

    I havent mentioned war crimes or the UN. You just cant back up what you say.

    Hamas can fire routinely up to 2000 rockets in a week, therefore there is no human shields operation.

    Kazahkstan is a sh*thole, the UK is not.

    Kazahkstan has no armed forces, no nuclear weapons and no vote in the UNSC. Therefore Kazahkstan is much more irrelevant than the UK or anywhere else.

    London has long been a centre for all kinds of people, good and bad. Thats freedom. Kazahkstanis dont know much about freedom or wealth or influence or education and will mostly have neither. Sad. :wink:
     
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    Ive told you many times the opposite, and pro-Israel is anti-peace. It was never quiet.

    And 3 west bank murders are no reason to make 34 airstikes on Gaza. The teenagers were on occupied territory. Settlers have no right to be there.
     
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    So now you're condoning premeditated gruesome murder of innocent Jewish children by Hamas. Par for the course for you, Hamas apologist that you are.
     
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    LOL, Im saying its no reason to strike Gaza 34 times, apologist for Israel and settlers that you are.
     
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    And Israel didn't strike Gaza 34 times, Israel struck 34 Hamas targets. I don't think the difference escapes es even you. Hamas wanted this war Hamas rejected every ceasefire and you know that but being a member of Hamas Propaganda wing you will never admit the obvious.

    PS of course Hamas didn't expect to lose as badly as it did. Are you mourning Hamas terror bosses today? Lol
     
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    Israel doesnt make distinction between attacks on its government or forces and attacks on its territory so theres no reason to say those 34 strikes werent on Gaza as much as they on Hamas.

    Hamas did not want this war, Israel did, thats why they tightened restrictions on Gaza fishing space previously and its because they objected to a Palestinian unity government.

    It is Israel that has rejected every ceasefire and broken all previous ones. You know that but being a Hasbara you will never admit the obvious.

    PS, of course Hamas expected to suffer great losses, but it hasnt lost at all, it has won.

    Im no more mourning Hamas commanders than you are mourning Teenage settlers.

    PPS Are you aware that everyone knows youre not from Kazahkstan?
     
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    There was no change for worse in Gaza fishing space, it was as agreed, they want more space, according to our papers that condition is generally accepted but we dont want to deal with Hamas or award its attacks. negotiations will mean we want something in return unless peace is barganed here.

    That's a lie Israel accepted EVERY humanitarian cease fire by the UN, Hamas refused at least one of them, in all cease fires Hamas started to shoot 1-4 h before the official time, its became a joke here,

    In the last cease fire btw they started shooting at 15:40 (was supposed to be untill 24:00), three rockets at Beer Sheva, that's why Israeli delegation left Cairo.

    We can live with their "victories".

    My condolences then, you are in for a rough time.
     
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    No, an heroic and factual one.
     
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    No it was reduced, mainly because Israel doesnt accept unity between Fatah and Hamas in government.

    LOL, the Israeli cabinet has categorically stated it had no intention of halting operations in Gaza before the first ceasefires came into play and they didnt.

    And they can live with yours.

    And so are you. My condolences.

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    Typical Israeli apologist nonsense.
     
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    Look guys Im tired of this nonsense. I wish you all well in your endeavours, and peace and security to all peoples involved in this conflict.

    This argument is tit for tat just as the Israeli / Palestinians conflict is mostly tit for tat.

    They have to live together in the end, whatever we say.

    Good luck to you all.

    Creation.
     
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    Cease fire means the cease of fire - not retreat. cease fire for 24h cannot include a retreat that alone takes an entire day, be serious, besides, the last one was respected for 2 days and broken about 8h before deadline.


    Great, so what's else do we have to talk about ? ISIS ?


    Thanks, I'm not the one that cries to stop the war thou.
     
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    We are ALL tired of the nonsense. The trouble is what happens in the middle east will effect all of us as per biblical prophesy.


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    RED BOLD FONT MINE
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    The reason I bolded and colored the font was that is what I am addressing. I thought you are from Scotland? Hint Scotland is not in the west.

    reva
     
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    It is that kind of denial where those that support Palestine and other anti Israel creations deny various details of suicide attacks and other terrorist actions (or that they happen at all!) indicate the successful indoctrination via brainwashing and to a lesser extent a ultra-successful propaganda campaign not seen since Nazi Germanys anti-Jewish campaign. Today’s Arab/Pal-fascist successful propaganda campaign to demonize the Jewish people is even more successful IMO. And what is highly interesting to me of course is how all this is mentioned in the bible as prophesy including the beheadings etc in other areas of the ME.


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