Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

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  1. Jack Hays

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    Sorry, but that's just nonsense without foundation.
     
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    No, I know this because I understand the grim reality of the situation, and I am not blinded by propaganda or some weird religious beliefs.
     
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    The grim reality is Hamas is innocent of all wrongdoing? Lol. Yeah sounds super grim
     
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    Nobody said Hamas is innocent. I don't think that there is a person on here who has not condemned Hamas. But what Israel has been up to is far, far worse. over 32,000 dead. over half the buildings reduced to rubble. They just blew up a vehicle with foreign aid workers, including Americans and Australians, Clearly marked WCK for World Central Kitchen in huge letters, AFTER they told the Israelis what they were up to. They are starving the entire population. And now they are doing their damnedest to expand the conflict with the foolish bombing of an Iranian consulate building on their embassy compound. There is no way that doesn't escalate this conflict further, making it more likely that the US gets even more involved than we already are in the region.
     
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    If you had a point, you would post it.
     
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    Hamas chose war, and cannot complain when they got what they sought.
    “War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.”
    ― William Tecumseh Sherman
     
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    I don't honor propaganda rants with replies.
     
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    You do realize saying the only ones who’ve committed torture rape and murder is Israel is saying Hamas hasn’t committed those acts, right? So what are they guilty of? Foul language?
     
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    Sherman would spit on Netanyahu. Hamas does not represent Palestinians, and punishing all of Palestine for what Hamas does is beyond evil, and makes IDF just as much of a terrorist organization as Hamas, if not more so. Netanyahu has dragged Israel's honor through the mud, and condemned its people to another age of suffering for the Jews.
     
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    The Palestinians elected Hamas.
    “The government you elect is the government you deserve.”
    ― Thomas Jefferson
     
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    I didn't say they were the only ones. I said that it is Israel doing it as we speak, not Hamas. 32,000 and counting, not including the corpses buried under the rubble. I've said it constantly since October 7th, I condemn what Hamas did on October 7th. What Hamas did does not make it even remotely ok to slaughter tens of thousands of innocents, level the city, and starve the entire population.
     
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    Let me get this straight, you think the hostages are not being raped and tortured? Like I said, are you part of Hamas?
     
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    Due to Hamas being propped up from Qatar, facilitated by Israel to ensure that Hamas got elected. And the vast majority of Palestine was either too young to vote were not even alive yet when the election was held. You think that justifies the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocents?? And Thomas Jefferson would be absolutely disgusted with the Netanyahu regime and his treatment of the Palestinians. Where is the Jefferson quote that says "you deserve to be starved and to have your life and that of your family taken away because your parents voted for thew wrong government"?

    There is no justification for what Israel is doing.
     
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    This is just more of your nonsense.

    West Bank and President Abbas have gotten no farther with a direction of nonviolence.

    This was a test carried out in the real world.

    Would negotiation work?

    Would violence work?

    The answer is that neither has worked.

    However, the recent slaughter has put Palestine back on the map.

    It's as seriously tough sacrifice in lives of civilians, but there is reason to believe that the world will demand a stable, peaceful two state solution.

    It may take some more months of Netanyahu's genocide to assure that even the USA is going to see that the future is not going to tolerate Israel's slaughter.
     
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    I am impressed by your detailed knowledge of what long-dead Americans would think. Lacking such insight, I merely take them at their word.
    Israel's actions are comprehensively justified.
     
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    I have no idea. I'm not even sure if they are still alive seeing how indiscriminately Israel drops bombs. Whether they are being raped or tortured is speculative. What is FACT is that tens of thousands of civilians are dead, and the entirety of the over a million other Palestinians are being starved. So, let me get this straight... you think killing tens of thousands and starving of over a million is justified?? Seriously??? What are you, a member of the IDF?

    And there are massive protests occurring against Netanyahu because he has not at all prioritized the return of the hostages. He has betrayed the hostages, leaving them to their fate. He had multiple chances to get them returned, and he said no deal. In fact, he doesn't want them back, as then he wouldn't be able to use them as an excuse to continue his slaughter.
     
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    Only a very sick and twisted individual would make that claim.
     
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    As you wish. For myself, I see no reason to reward the Palestinians' 76 year embrace of war on their neighbor.
     
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    I do not stoop to personal insults.
     
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    okay then, your assertion that the “only ones” doing it being the IDF is now admitted to be specious at best.

    Is the rate of civilian deaths in a dense urban environment worse than other historical examples? Answer: no, it’s not. Both the ratio of civilians to overall population as well as ratio of civilians to dead combatants is actually amazing.

    Kudos to Israel for conducting one of the most humanely successful military operations. Hamas has been dismantled down to just 4-5 battalions and if not for the giant meat shield so willing to sit there and be meat shields instead of leave, Hamas would be wiped out.

    Actually Hamas is saying no deal and that’s with Israel being willing for some idiotic reason to trade a bajillion terrorists for every hostage returned. Hamas is content with its million human meat shield that nobody will be smart enough to make the Palestinians leave.
     
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    And I do not stoop to the level of thinking the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocents and the starvation of the entire population of Gaza is justified somehow.
     
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    The countries of the world disagree with you.
     
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    Once again, I never said the IDF were the "Only ones" doing it. You seem to have a hard time with that point.

    It is the worst humanitarian crisis on the planet, one that is easily preventable. Israel is only making its situation worse, not better.

    Lol, there is NOTHING humane about what Israel is doing.
     
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    Yes, and you refuse to recognize the West Bank interest in negotiation - as Israel steals their land and rules by military law in which Palestinians have no representation.

    It's almost as if you hate Palestinians enough to cheer on Israeli genocide!
     
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    Hamas has consistently been castigated for their terrorist act in October by everyone on this board, in the USA and world wide.

    Is there ANY chance that you can remember that for more than one post???

    Or, is that just too hard?
     

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