https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67617920 Israel is a fascist state. It's Jews are colonizing the state of Palestine through sheer terror with help of it's government. And instead of that the Jewish state does something against it. It ends up doing to opposite and employs and arms the Jewish colonizers to terrorize with impunity. And Hamas is it's response to these unprovoked war crimes done by them Israeli Jews and it's self proclaimed homeland of the Jews. The western governments acknowledge this, and condemn it. But refuse to do anything and veto plans to put an end to this, hence the violence will not stop. And so that's where the problems is at.
Just before the accusations come in: No, I am not an anti-semite, I am not a Hamas lover, I condemn the Oct 7 attacks. Back to the OP: The settler violence has been going on for a long time in the West Bank, before Oct 7 23. Here is an example: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-64757990 In retaliation to the shooting of two settlers, they ramapged a whole town. What did the IDF do? Nothing. The question is, why is this violence not called out as terrorism? We desperately need people from both sides to remove their extermist leaders. This goes for both Hamas and Likud. We need another attempt at the Oslo peace accord, this time with a two-state system as the final outcome. There won't be peace until the Palestinian people get their rights and their own state. I am writing this as someone who has friends and colleagues in Israel and who has been there many times. It is a great country, but it can't achieve peace by subjugating the Palestinian people. The Zionists, who want to expand further into Palestinian territory in their quest for the greater Israel have to be kicked out of power, so that the moderates and non-religious can achieve peace.
I'm all up for calling a spade a spade. There is no problem is naming what ethnic group in the US is overrepresented in jails. Those are facts. But suddenly on this topic we supposedly are tip toing around. Your label of Israel is great, and then insert an except for that state sponsored terrorism against Arabs for being Arabs, is ridiculous. It's just not a great country at all. It could be, but it's not. And the real problem is not why what Jews do is not getting called out as terrorism. The real problem is why loads of people in the West back up the Jewish homeland, calling it great, while the country supports this unprovoked terrorism and subsequently is a massive problem why this spiral of violence goes on. A country that has an active policy to colonize an other country through sheer terror, doesn't even have the right to defend itself. And the answer why the West backs up the Jewish homeland, is easy to answer. It's because in the West there is a clear preference on what ethnicity should be getting away with it when it's at the expense of an other ethnicity.
This is great an all but time to get back to reality. https://www.washingtoninstitute.org...two-state-solution-backs-tactical-compromises between the Trump peace plan’s release on January 28 and Israel’s March 2 election, new survey data shows that most Palestinian respondents now say they prefer “regaining all of historical Palestine” over permanent peace with Israel. They don't want to co-exist! Its funny how you are trying to spin the opposite.
In what world is Israel engaging in unprovoked terrorism when Hamas (Unprovoked) is flying in on para gliders targeting and murdering civilians, then taking civilian hostages. Sounds more like media tripe for Hamas. All the while, Palestinians do NOTHING to rid themselves of Hamas while Hamas uses them as human shields and digs tunnels all over their city to hide children hostages. So while you ignore that Hamas started this, while decapitating civilians in the streets, and Palestinians allow Hamas to run their terror organizations from their own city, you accuse Israel of being a terror organization because they fight back? Unimaginable.
And I saw this on youtube a moment ago: So up until now, the mainstream media was apparently unaware of this? the UN and feminists have been ignoring these crimes against women? Horrible.
It's ridiculous. Palestine people celebrate openly with Hamas in the streets celebrating the rape and tortures of women and babies. High fives, chants, tears of joy. They turn in escaped Hamas hostages back to the Hamas so they can continued to be tortured. But yeah, we are supposed to be shocked and appalled and the consequences of those actions for Hamas and people of Palestine.
Color me surprised that the left comes out supporting terrorist. Even Putin came out supporting Hamas. Starting to see the correlation
All of this stems back to the Balfour Declaration and the UK trying to appease both sides, without giving any consideration to either side and then the U.N virtually agreeing to it. Simply, if a living arrangement is to be made, it needed to be made by the people living there. Neither the UK or the UN should have been able to change the course of history. And to the extent of the US involvement, we have been very hypocritical in that we insist on Western Values, only to look the other way when said values are violated. Saudi does not believe in our Western way of life, and neither does the present Israeli government. And we have to treat our relationships accordingly. When these countries realize our alliance is not to be taken for granted,only then will they abide by the 'international'(western) norms. We, the West, need to insist on things and then be consistent in our insistence.
In a world where the UNSC demands in a resolution 2334 that Israel must comply to the Geneva Convention and seize all their colonies in the West Bank and East-Jerusalem. Israel is breaching this international law and in fact, is making it worse every year. It does so with terror and murder for decades on end.
So you thought attacks after Hamas was targeting civilians and murdering children is terrorism. But what Hamas is doing isn't. Now I understand your claim
This thread is about settler violence, and Israel recruiting those settlers, arming them and inflicting terror and bulldozering their houses and school flat. It's how Israel has been doing so for decades on end. The UNSC got a binding resolution for all them settlers to be removed, including East-Jerusalem. It's a flagrant breach of international law, and it's all unprovoked.
