Israel's crimes against the Palestinians

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  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Those were dark days in US history and not a source of pride... You might note that that sort of ethnic cleansing and colonizing the land of others is NOW ILLEGAL under international law.
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    please don't feed this derail.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Imagine legal equivocation to preserve the Jewishness of the Jewish nation. who'd a thunk?

    this insistence that somehow Israel is the only nation that must act purely, without flaw or sin is hypocritical in the extreme.

    For some reason, anti-Zionists and jew haters insist on a unique and completely different measuring stick for Israel and its jews.

    I guess its lost on some that there is vibrant internal opposition to many Israeli policies and that there is legal recourse to oppose them (besides the ballot box) and that the rule of law prevails. I guess that isn't important. What is important is the Israel simply bend over, take it up the arse and become a secular state.


    THE FACT IS THAT ISRAEL IS A JEWISH NATION, and they are well within their legal and political rights to ensure that status.
    Rights they have fought for over the past 7 decades or so.

    stressed that his ruling does not derogate from the obligation of the state to grant equality to all its citizens, residents and those under its control, without regard to nationality, race, religion or gender,
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so are non-Jews equal citizens of Israel, or not?
     
  5. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Then stop calling Israel a democracy................. there is two tiered citizenship...
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and yet it treats all Palestinians like criminals and untermenschen
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Imagine treating your enemies like ... I don't know ... ENEMIES!
     
  8. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    So youre not going to give native americans their land back but you want Israelis to hand over Israel to the Arabs because international law dictates such. International law means nothing, just look at Omar Al bashir who has had an arrest warrant on him by the "international law" for the last 5 years with no states in Afrika willing to comply with these laws. Its a matter of perspective iguess and why Israeli's generally ignore "international laws" after all, nothing is going to stop them like nothing stopped Al bashir in doing what they have to do.
     
  9. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course its a democracy.

    Tell me which Israeli citizens are barred from voting? Are their arab Knesset members? arab municipal council members? Israeli arab media sources (uncensored)?

    You keep pulling out these anti-Zionist canards as tho you actually believe them.

    You live in a two tiered citizenship country, or haven't you noticed?

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    yes. protected by law.
     
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    Yeah.. well there should be a warrant on the Likud.......


    1267: Nahmanides goes to Jerusalem and prays at the Western Wall. Reported to have found only two Jewish families in the city

    1482: The visiting Dominican priest Felix Fabri described Jerusalem as "a collection of all manner of abominations". As "abominations" he listed Saracens, Greeks, Syrians, Jacobites, Abyssianians, Nestorians, Armenians, Gregorians, Maronites, Turcomans, Bedouins, Assassins, a sect possibly Druzes, Mamelukes, and "the most accursed of all", Jews. Only the Latin Christians "long with all their hearts for Christian princes to come and subject all the country to the authority of the Church of Rome".
     
  11. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it is illegal under international law to treat all residents of occupied territory, as enemy combatants.

    its no different than Germany treating ALL Jews, as enemies of the state
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    What would be the point if no nation in europe would agree with the ruling, it would be a waste of paper and time.
     
  13. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its attitudes like this, bigoted..disgusting....racist, that explain hatred of Israel and Zionist Jews.
     
  14. Jonsa

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    Enemy and combatant are not equivalent.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Nazis considered all 11 million Jews in Europe to be enemies, and had to be treated like enemies, regardless if they ever actually commited any crimes.

    u see to view the Palestinians the same way.
    correct me if im wrong
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now that is simply stupid.

    Are you denying that the Palestinians are not enemies of Israel? W

    hat explains hatred of Israel and jews has nothing to do with treating one's enemies as enemies.

    Geez you do go off every once in a while.
     
  17. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    are you actually suggesting that every single Palestinian in Gaza and the West Bank, is an enemy of Israel and should be treated as such, be they child or woman, whether or not they have ever been convicted or even arrested for crimes against Israel?

    if that's what you're saying, than your views towards the Palestinians is pretty analogous to the Nazi views towards Jews.
     
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    Once in a while too many... So you and I have the same feelings about that... At least this time we agree. Hurray!
     
  19. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    do u agree with him, that EVERY Palestinian is an enemy of Israel and should be treated as such?
     
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    Racist?? What race are Palestine Arabs ?. Some here have argued that they are Caucasian ( lol ) so what now? Some( the same ppl ) here have argued that Jewish ppl are also Caucasian ( lol ) .
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  21. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    calling millions of people "enemies of the state", is disgusting.

    especially when they have never been convicted nor charged with a crime.
     
  22. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I am suggesting that every ADULT Palestinian in the occupied territories is an enemy of Israel. Its kind of a given in belligerent military occupations, especially when "collaborators" are shot and hung up lampposts for all to see the fact of such as one.

    As to the children, unfortunately being children they are wholly subject to the status of their parents despite their innocence.

    For some inexplicable reason you and others cannot comprehend what a BELLIGERENT MILITARY OCCUPATION is.
    Nor it seems to even acknowledge that the Palestinians are regrettably living under such conditions.


    Such stupidity requires only this response.
     
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    Are you saying some pensioner who just wants to keep his orange grove, or some east jerusalem resident who just wants to stay in his house.....is an enemy of Israel?

    Does this make every innocent and uninterested Israeli also an enemy of Palestinians and international law?
     
  24. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    well, that is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing disgusting, and absolutely like how the Nazis viewed the Jews.

    no convictions, no arrests, but they were still ALL "enemies of the state".

    I guess this is why soo many people hate Israel. Now its starting to all make sense.
     
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    Sure there are plenty of caucasian jews, alot of them hail from there too.
     

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