Israel's options in Palestine

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  1. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem is the 'culture' of Hamas is not the culture of Palestinians. Hamas is a symptom of a disease, filled with hate-filled extremists. But those people were broken when their loved ones were oppressed and murdered over decades of Israeli oppression. You cannot equate Palestinians and Hamas, any more than you can equate an average German and a Nazi. Extremists are born from circumstances.
     
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    Biden has an idea:

    America's Confused Commander-In-Chief Warns Israel Against Attacking Israel
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    Says he "made it clear to the Israelis: don’t move on Haifa."

    Biden warns Israel, not attack a city in Israel.

    He's a big help!

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    Right now Israel needs to completely pacify Gaza and make sure that everyone who participated in the 10/6/23 mass rape and murder of civilians, invasion, is brought to justice.
     
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  3. Cybred

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    So screw the hostages then.
     
  4. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hamas just rejected an offer for a 6 week pause in fighting in exchange for 40 hostages.
     
  5. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Which doesn't negate the fact that you don't rescue hostages with bombs and missiles.
     
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    I heard that Biden and Schumer had a meeting yesterday and are going to propose that the Gaza problem be solved the same way they solve every problem. Just hand massive amounts of free cash to everyone within 500 miles.
     
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  7. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no coexist with Palestinians. The Arabs don't want them, and they will not co-exist with Jews. Find them a new planet!
     
  8. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't rescue hostages without giving Hamas everything they want period! Only solution?....destroy anyone intent on taking hostages!
     
  9. fmw

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    There is no Palestinian land. There never has been. The geographic area called Palestine has been ruled by all kinds of groups except for the Palestinians themselves. The UK ruled it when it was turned over to the Jews in 1948.

    There was peace in Gaza before the massacre. The Gazans would do well to rid themselves of Hamas. Help the Israelis get rid of them. Then they can have peace once again. The Palestinians have been offered their own land as a state several times and they refused it every time. Arafat won Nobel peace prize for refusing a palestinian state.

    They don't want what you want to do. They want Israel gone and replaced by them. Not going to happen.
     
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    You rescue hostages by looking for them and then taking them.
     
  11. yabberefugee

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    Of course.....while killing the hostage takers!
     
  12. Cybred

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    Again, you don't do that with bombs and missiles.
     
  13. fmw

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    Yes. The military option is the only one. Hamas isn't going to bend to anything else.
     
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    Right --- Ethnic Cleansing is what is needed to cleanse the Land - that and crimes against humanity .. all good in the hood for Colonial Occupier .. what ever it takes to annex the place .. and cleanse it of those dirty Arabs .. aye mate :)
     
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    Yes .. same with those Azov Nazi in Ukraine .. Vlad's special military operation of denazification must continue until all the Nazi are Gone .. they not going to bend to anything but military force .. cept Vlad has been much better than Bibi in terms of killing civilians .. which is why the Irish delegation to the UN say "The Hague too good for Bibi" ..
     
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    To believe that the hostages are still alive at this point is an exercise in wishful thinking To the nth degree. There is a reason Hamas refuses to negotiate hostage release any more.
     
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    You do if the enemy uses tunnels and buildings to hide.
     
  18. fmw

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    You get my red herring of the week award.
     
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    They've served their usefulness.
     
  20. Cybred

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    Killing the hostages.
     
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  21. fmw

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    It can happen.
     
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    Or not. All the hostages that were still alive have already been released or killed that was pretty much true at the last hostage release.
     
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    I haven't seen that represented i in real world history. Truthfully what I see in history is defeat your enemy and then make friends.
     
  24. Giftedone

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    another term you should figure out what means friend .. We are talking violations of international law .. US policy towards such violations should be consistent with respect to consideration of options in Palestine .. so not a "red herring" friend .. to say we should be arming the Palestinians which will impact Israel's options.

    You see how things all connect :) .. The best Option for Israel is to stop this baby extermination program and send Bibi to the Hague .. even though the Irish Delegation to the UN say "The Hague is too good for Bibi" .. and that's no red herring friend : )
     
  25. fmw

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    I am not your friend. I am your enemy.
     

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