Imagine that in 48, Israel hadn't been created. The implications of that today would have meant a very different, and certainly safer world, the difference would have been profound, far reaching, and mostly positive. Let us ask, what would have become of the Khazars (white Europeans, whose ancestors had merely converted to Judaism, and who have no relation whatsover, to the Semite Jews of that region? Well, the most simple and logical answer is that they would have taken up refugee status or citizenship, in other countries, as many of them actually did. They would have been absorbed into those societies, as many did. So we know the answer to what would have happened to the Khazars if there had been to 'Jewish homeland', since the answer is already self evident, in what many did do. So, please put aside any hysterical notion that something dark and bad would have happened to these people, if a special land had not been exclusively dedicated to them. That is not true at all, otherwise all those that didn't go to this 'Israel', something dark and bad would have happened to them. It hasn't. Instead they have lived among non Jews, which is actually what the Talmud teaches, Semite Jewish rabbi's have publicly said that the state of Israel is against the very teachings of Judaism, and against the Talmud. Of course, Jews would still have gone on living in that region - why not? They had for a thousand years or more, and side by side with Muslims from that region. Of course, if there was no Israel, all conflicts that have included Israel in ANY way, in their short and bloody history, they would logically not happen. Think of that for one moment. And all conflicts that were carried out by the US and others, yet clearly had Zionist fingerprints on them, they would not have happened. Again, just contemplate the human savings and financial savings alone. The terrible and unethical blood diamond industry would be diminished to almost nothing, since it is Israel who are, perhaps no surprise, the main benefactors of that grubby industry, as it goes. There would be no apartheid in the region, as there is now, even within Israel, and we would not have a people who cannot defend themselves (but would have every right to, if they were armed, like the Libyan rebels) being routinely persecuted, their children shot dead, or horribly maimed by phospherus. But still the postive differences could be counted. With no Israel, there would have been no Zionist lobby in the US, least it would have been fringe only, and not the monster that it has become today, which, btw, is a slap in the face to ALL Americans, and to the Founding Fathers of America, to be honest. And with no Zionist lobby to shape it's foreign policy, into one of perpetual conflict, the US would be all the healthier for it. And richer too. Invasions and occupations cost money, as does the billions in aid which is criminally handed over to Israel, without the consulation of the people in the US! But there is one more thing that I truly believe we would be absent of, had the decision not been made to create the state - I do not believe we would have seen what we see today as Islamic backed acts of terrorism. Imagine that. Your number one threat (you're told) - it likely never would have manifested, with no Israel. If you can please point me in the direction of all the Islamic fundies carrying out routine terrorist attacks, BEFORE the state of Israel was created, I would be truly interested to hear of them. But everyone knows that Israel was founded on terrorism, this is not my view, it is fact, Irgun and the Stern Gang, they were terrorists, no doubt. Indeed, I recall reading an article in which the researcher remarked that it was really only after the influx of the Khazars arrival, that the Muslims realised the mistake they had made, in the region - they had a thriving community, of Muslims, Jews, Christians, there was genuine co-operation, check out what was there before the mass immigration arrived, of European Khazars. You will be surprised at what you find, I think. The only thing that they did not have was an army. They hadn't thought to need one, so when these greedy immigrants realised this, they began stealing land, and commiting the crimes we know of today. Crimes that one day they will answer for. Do not be tricked into believing that Israel are some sort of 'friend'. They aren't. Do not be fooled into thinking that there was no one in that region, and nothing happening, before these immigrants were allowed to go there. There was. Don't underestimate how powerful groups NOT representing America have become. They have and they are. If you put America first, and believe American politics should be free of that sort of contamination, then you should really object. I hear a lot of Americans on here complaining about the migration of Mexicans, for instance. I ask you to imagine this. Let's say that one day some outside and external entity, they decide that not only is migration of Mexicans allowed, it is freely encouraged. Not just Mexicans, anyone that can lay claim to having some sort of Mexican bloodline, all of them can come flocking, encouraged, incentified. Moreover, not only can they come, but they are afforded a bit of land within the US, which they decide to rename. But there is friction, as the Mexicans steal more land than was afforded them, and following several conflicts, the Mexicans steal yet more land still. Now they are building whole communities that are thriving, while Americans are reduced to being second class citizens. Indeed, with a short time, the push of this Inner Mexico is such, that all Americans are pushed to a few tiny strips of a country they had previously lived on, for some time. Then those Americans must live under a newly imposed Mexican military law, which the Mexicans don't need to do. Americans routinely see family members killed, or burned by chemicals, fired at them from the Mexicans. Supply lines for vital resources to your friends and family, they are cut off, by Inner Mexico. Marginalised, and apparently with no World voice, you fight back. Americans are called 'terrorists' for doing so. Daily. In a lot of media. How would you really like that? How would you feel about those immigrants, if they did all of that? Jack
