It's a shock! The debut of "Barbenheimer" raised the weekend box office to a four-year high

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  1. DennisTate

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    Yes... because I take the prediction by near death experiencer Bob Jones seriously that some of the most courageous Christian missionaries will soon rise up in Russia..... and they will have an amazing impact on the Middle East. As flawed as I am... I do believe that I could mentor some of them in some ways somewhat better than how I was taught back in the seventies and eighties.......

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  2. Hey Now

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    Then you should make it happen, Russia awaits your arrival....
     
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    But I think that I am more likely to move to Israel first... and then off to Russia later after meeting a high number of Russian immigrants to Israel.....

    and..... I need for my wife to have the feeling that we are supposed to go there...... that we are being Sent there.....

    I have a number of ideas that could be rather useful to Israelis... and to Russians as well.....

    Should Israelis begin discussion of a Class Action Lawsuit against Bill Gates?




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    How can we stop the rockets from landing on Sderot, Israel?



     
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  4. Hey Now

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    Dennis, one word, FOCUS.

    Simply, make it happen, Bibi is not Vlad yet.
     
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    Your anti-American position is well noted.
     
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    American society and Russian society are different from one another. Frankly American society is quite superior. It is why we have the wealthiest and most powerful nation on the planet. We have 4 individual states that each have more GDP than the Russian Federation. Our #6 isn't far behind. It wasn't stupidity that caused that to happen. I think the Barbie movie is probably silly and I have no interest in seeing it. But I don't care a whit that other people want to see it. Nor do I think it reflects anything on our society. Different people entertain themselves in different ways here just as they do in Russia.
     
  7. conservaliberal

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    From what I've read, we should be able to stream "Oppenheimer" by around the first of October, and probably with DVD's out later that same month. "As an official Universal Pictures production, ‘Oppenheimer‘ will be exclusively streaming on NBC Universal’s Peacock following its 45-day theatrical window."

    Link: https://www.outlookindia.com/outloo...iversal Pictures,its 45-day theatrical window.

    "Barbie"? Naw, I already see way too much of the Gen-Z fantasy world as it is, every time I step out my front door. :psychoitc:
     
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    Let me add my two cents to encourage more discussion. On this one I agree with Grumpy ConLib lol on his comments about Gen Z and Barbie. Zero interest.

    As for the Opp movie well I read and prefer history books to learn histort and so do not want a movie to recap the history of the atom bomb. That is just me. No interest. I prefer dealing with it through historians and their analysis which I have. I like to take time and think about what they revealed and the lessons of it. I find a movie too emotional and quick with this topic. I do appreciate why others would however want to see it. I know for some it will help them grasp a complex part of history many do not know in a positive way.

    Just for me, the whole nuclear thing is too deep and complex for a movie that will necessarily romanticize it and condense down the time lines.

    How about this for discussion, it is a shame Opp and his team and many others for both good and evil reasons harnessed such energy to kill and still use it to threaten to kill.

    Why we can not use our knowledge to improve life not threaten its destruction is simple-we are both evil and good and so myself I do not think we are capable of operating without both components inextricably linked and so expressed in the consequence of our actions and decisions and that inextricable link is the very point of our life we must learn to balance as they are the fuel cell of all life.

    I myself I am not sure what others you believe but for me the use of nuclear weapons against Japan was horrendous, revolting, horrifying, inhumane, but in the long run prevented more deaths of both civilians and soldiers and so in that sense, from a purely utilitarian sense, was justified to save lives as horrendous as that sounds. So I do not define Truman or Opp. or his team as evil-just humans who were guided by decisions to save lives ironically by instilling fear of death.

    I do not to argue we should use it again for thesame reasons or should have had war in the first place and as for MAD, (mutual armed destruction), I think that is an insane way to create international relations.

    All that said Opp. from what I gather and everyone else on his team wrestled with what they did until they died and even then I am sure they felt tortured by what they were part of.

    I would not wish that gnawing remorse, guilt, on anyone anymore than radiation poisoning and slow death. It would eat away with constant pain.
     
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    I haven't seen Barbie, and I know Ben Shapiro ranted against it and burned a bunch of Barbies? I heard a lady conservative pundit on morning talk show--can't remember her name-- but she loved it and will never forgive Ben S for wasting so many dolls and not offering them to children in need.
     
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    On the subject of movies, I was wondering if you had ever seen an older movie (early 1960s) named "The Russians are Coming". It's just as thought provoking as it as it is funny.

    Thanks,
     
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    I always take historical movies with that proverbial "grain of salt", knowing that the presentation of the facts are always subject to alteration by the producers, director, and individual actors. Some historical 'representations' are manipulated so badly that they are barely-disguised opinion pieces, like the last scenes in "Darkest Hour", with Gary Oldman as Churchill.

    Perhaps a good example of what I thought of as a good historical biography was "The Imitation Game", in which Benedict Cumberbatch played the part of Alan Turing. The "jury's out" on "Oppenheimer", but I'm willing to give the movie a chance. But, make no mistake, I do agree with you about the gravity and solemnity of nuclear warfare itself, which should never be romanticized or trivialized!
     
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    You're wrong. I love America. I like the American very hard working people. Basically, I like the lifestyle of American citizens....But!.... I hate the American government. And I believe that the first victim of the madmen who seized power in the United States is the American people.

    And, by the way, why do you think that talking about the tragic mistakes of the country's history is equivalent to speaking from an anti-American position?
    If the US government created concentration camps for its citizens, it is necessary to keep silent about this and then you will be a patriot?
    If the US government deliberately infected the citizens of Guatemala with syphilis, it is also necessary to keep silent about this?
    If the US government promotes LGBT people who are alien to nature, and we should also keep silent about this?
    Otherwise, according to your supposedly "logic", this is an anti-American position.
     
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    It was funny. Especially references to GDP, which even the author of this term called meaningless.
    I have explained it many times, but I will show you a couple of examples especially for you.
    1. Facebook's capitalization is higher than Gazprom's capitalization. Facebook will disappear - no one will notice. Gazprom will disappear - a global collapse.
    2. You are the owner of a car maker. You buy spare parts through a number of intermediaries. Spare parts are expensive. The car you produced is expensive. GDP is growing.
    You are the owner of a car maker. You buy spare parts from the manufacturer. Spare parts are cheap. You sell the cars you created cheaper. GDP is falling.
    Do not compare the economy of dog hairdressers and waiters, Facebook and Twitter with the real economy of Russia.
     
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    No. I didn't look. I haven't even heard of such a movie.
    I only know that James Forrestal, the US Secretary of the Navy and the first Minister of Defense, jumped out of the window shouting "The Russians are coming."
     
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    No need to repeat what I said.
     
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    Barbie earned an amount equal to .09% of all rubles in circulation.
     
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    They weren't concentration camps. They were detention centers. They were a bad idea but nobody was harmed in them. I don't hate government but I understand how incompetent and corrupt it is. That is true of all governments. Syphilis in Guatemala? Sheesh. Government defends LGBTQ, it doesn't promote it. Promotion would be wrong. Defense is fine under the concept of equality. Government should treat all citizens in the same way. Hence the defense of something that has a lot of enemies. As long as government defends all citizens, there is no problem. Yes I realize our government doesn't engage in equality. I was merely criticizing your comment for the reasons I provided.

    Criticizing a government's actions is fine. I do it all the time. But when it is nothing but criticism it is anti-American or anti-Russian or anti-Guatemalan.
     
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    For those whose interest may have been piqued by the Oppenheimer flick, I enthusiastically recommend The Making of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes. First & foremost (for a lame-brained layman like me) Rhodes is a truly gifted writer. His prose is elegant - even poetic at times - and manages to hold your interest even when delving into the nitty gritty of nuclear physics. The amount of research required to pull off this book is staggering. And not just the science, but the men and women responsible for it. We get to know the principals involved, including Oppenheimer. And others like Enrico Fermi, who only fished with real flies, because he felt the condemned were entitled to an authentic last meal.

    His account of the raid on the Nazi heavy water plant by Norwegian commandos reads like something out of a Clancy novel. The last part of the book is comprised of first-hand survivor accounts of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which is the most horrifying reading I've ever done.

    Go ye, and read of it.

    Meanwhile, my favorite Barbenheimer meme:

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    I thought that you might find the movie different from the usual anti war movies of the era like "Fail Safe" and "Dr.Strangelove".

    The movie, "The Russians Are Coming", was made in 1966 and is a comedy about a Soviet submarine that accidentally runs aground near a small American fishing village.
    I don't want to tell you the ending but the movie makes fun of the Americans and shows that there are some things that transcend our differences.

    I think that it may interest you.

    "The Russians Are Coming, the Russians Are Coming"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Russians_Are_Coming,_the_Russians_Are_Coming
     
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    Don't you know that the United States deliberately infected Guatemalans with syphilis?....However, I'm not surprised.... Especially for you - https://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/10/01/us.guatemala.apology/

    I wonder if you know about the blankets intentionally infected with smallpox that were distributed to Native Americans?
     
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    ‘Barbie’ to top $1 billion at the global box office Sunday
    Published Sun, Aug 6 202311:10 AM EDT

    “Barbie” is expected to join the billion-dollar club Sunday.

    The bubblegum pink flick from Warner Bros. Discovery and Mattel will top $1 billion in global ticket sales, before the end of the weekend, according to estimates from the studio. Final numbers will be released Monday.

    Only around 50 other films have reached this benchmark.

    “In this march past the billion-dollar threshold, ‘Barbie’ joins what has become an increasingly exclusive club over the past couple of years,” said Shawn Robbins, chief analyst at BoxOffice.com. “That’s especially true for auteur filmmaker Greta Gerwig becoming the first solo female director to helm a billion-dollar grosser.”

    ... https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/06/barbie-to-top-1-billion-at-the-global-box-office-sunday.html

    :)
     
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    The resident America-haters will probably enjoy this:

     
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    I remember the movie. I watched it many decades ago (Zero Mostel and Alan Arkin?), but in today's current anti-Russian hysteria I'm not sure a movie that shows that "some things that transcend our differences" would go over well.
     
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    Barbie is a 12, Oppenheimer a 15 and boy is the latter LOOOOONNNG! So hardly surprising. I found Barbie a little disappointing although Ken was great. Oppenheimer was fun but disjointed.
     
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    It’s not hysteria, comrade.
     

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