It's clear now: Trump is not going to do anything about the Pandemic.

Yes he would! You didn't even bother to listen to the video. He explicitly states that restricting travel will slow down the spread (and it did), but it wouldn't stop it (and it didn't). And then goes on to outline what should be done. Such as listening to science (which Trump didn't). Demonstrating that if he were President tens of thousands of lives would have been saved.

You posted the video. But you didn't watch it, as demonstrated by your insistence on the 1:10 mark. No! The video is a bit over two and a half minutes long. And it's a testament to history of what could have been if this country were run by a real President.

 

Your opinions are meaningless to me without proof. Your quarantine requirements would be challenged as false imprisonment if the person(s) turned up clean.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=us+quarantine+returning+travelers+2020&FORM=AWRE

 

Where do you get that from? He and Obama didn't restrict travel to and from Mexico even though it was ground zero for H1N1. Your Monday morning quarterbacking of what Biden "says" he would have done is just lame. We already know what he did which was nothing.

 

Listen to the science? That's laughable. He is talking about another lockdown that has proven to shear suicide in many ways worse than the cure. The democrats laughed at Trump's vaccine timeline because they know they would not have been able to do it yet, it has happened.

 

So close, and yet, so very far away.

 

From you video, of course.

Who's Obama? Stay on topic! You brought a video that proves exactly the opposite of what you claimed.... and now refuse to watch it. Changing the subject is no substitute. First admit that Biden did not claim or even insinuate that Trump was a xenophobe because of the so-called "travel restrictions", and that in no way can anything he says in that video be interpreted as saying that he would not have imposed travel restrictions.... probably sooner and more stringent than Trump's.

Or quote it!

 

People without any critical thinking skills believe government can stop a virus.

 

Trump says U.S. could start distributing a coronavirus vaccine in October, contradicting CDC’s timeline

Trump: “We’re very close to that vaccine as you know and I think much closer than I think most people want to say,” Trump said during a White House press briefing Wednesday. “We think we can start some time in October.​

CDC: "Earlier in the day, Dr. Robert Redfield told lawmakers at a Senate hearing he expects vaccinations to begin in November or December, but in limited quantities with those most in need getting the first doses, such as health-care workers and the elderly.​

Trump: “I didn’t see him say it, but if that’s what he said then it’s a mistake because ... we’re ready to distribute immediately to a vast section of our country and then beyond because we want to help other countries also but we’re ready to distribute immediately,” Trump said.
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Get over it. Trump is an idiot, and he will go down in history as the idiot in the story.

 

Ah, he was off by a month. That would beat the years Biden would have been able to do it in.

 

Much more than a month. We will not be ready to distribute the vaccine to everybody (as Trump claimed) for another 3 months or so. And we won't go back to normal for at least 6. Maybe more, if Trump can find in the next 60 days more ways to undermine the process.

 

So you do a bing search and you seem to conclude that the government doesn't have the right to quarantine people against their will, in case of a national public health emergency for a communicable disease? How cute. Sure, people would try to fight it off in court but they would lose, like the nurse who tried to challenge her mandatory quarantine when she came back from an Ebola infected region, bitterly found out. Guess what? The court found for the government, stating that public good tramped her individual freedoms in this particular case.

 

LOL, undermine the process he implemented. Liberal logic 101.

 

You might want to check your calendar. Or consult reality. Either way, you aren't make any sense. Wait . . . do you seriously think that a vaccine is already being distributed? Really? And you seriously think that Trump is somehow responsible for the vaccine in the first place? Jesus, I guess some people really will believe anything.

 

Sorry you misunderstand what he said, but that's your problem not mine.

 

Show me the law.

 

oh, Trump is gonna do something, take credit for the Vaccine Germany funded

 

don't worry, Biden has an amazing secret plan for corona

 

not really secret

be honest with the American people, lead by example and let the experts do their job

 

I expected more. Maybe things about vaccines. "let the experts do their job" sounds like a cop out. I thought Biden was supposed to have a better plan than Trump. (and even though I'm a Trump guy, I want Biden's plan to be good, I am American after all and he will be our prez)...not for nothing but your statement seems super general and lacking in substance. What magical things is he going to do other than "lead by example" and I guess by that you mean wearing a mask? Please tell me he's got more than this.

 

Biden won't be telling people not to wear masks and to pack the churches, that alone is a improvement

Trump mishandled this in the beginning by playing it down, then by going to far by telling the country to shut down, then back to playing it down again

 

Sure, no problem.

Section 361 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S. Code § 264). With further regulations in 42 U.S.C. § 271; 18 U.S.C. §§ 3559 and 3571; and 42 CFR §§ 70.18, 70.6, 71.2, 71.32(a) and 71.33.

Look it up. Part 70 is for interstate travel. Part 71 is for foreign arrivals.

The CDC has been delegated with the authority to implement it.

"Under 42 Code of Federal Regulations parts 70 and 71, CDC is authorized to detain, medically examine, and release persons arriving into the United States and traveling between states who are suspected of carrying these communicable diseases."

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/aboutlawsregulationsquarantineisolation.html

Breaking a federal quarantine order is a criminal misdemeanor punishable with fines AND IMPRISONMENT of up to one year.

Here is a copy of a federal quarantine order for Covid-19. It quotes ALL the relevant laws:

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/Public-Health-Order_Generic_FINAL_02-13-2020-p.pdf

The above is a copy of an order for people traveling to the US from Hubei province during the Covid-19 pandemic. It wasn't done for the hordes of US citizens and permanent residents arriving from other parts of China and Europe.

Read in the order:

"CDC may legally detain you until it finds that you are no longer at risk of becoming ill and spreading the disease to others. This is commonly referred to as the incubation period for the disease. The incubation period for COVID-19 is currently believed to be up to 14 days."

Again, people have a right to appeal and to request an habeas corpus in federal court, under 28 U.S.C. § 2241. But when the order is based on a real danger to public health, the odds are overwhelming that the court will deny the habeas corpus, and will uphold the CDC's legal authority. Like I said, people can try, but they will lose.

In addition to these, States, Local, and Tribal governments also in many cases have this authority based on state, local, or tribal laws. But like I said, the existing FEDERAL law is quite sufficient to implement mandatory quarantines for arrivals at the border, something Trump's lame travel restriction executive order failed to ensure except for travelers from the Hubei province (although they did have the legal instruments to do just that, if they had wanted to do it more broadly, like Uruguay did in their country).

Observe that the list of communicable diseases can be updated at any time by executive order. Which was done at the time of Ebola, and has been done now at the time of Covid-19. So, yeah, legal authority is perfectly good.

Also read this, from the link above:

"Public health authorities at the federal, state, local, and tribal levels may sometimes seek help from police or other law enforcement officers to enforce a public health order."

And this:

"In addition to serving as medical functions, isolation and quarantine also are “police power” functions, derived from the right of the state to take action affecting individuals for the benefit of society."

Again, how cute that you thought otherwise... It's always entertaining to see what lay people think of matters pertaining to the exercise of Medicine and Public Health. People say the most absurd things as if they were the absolute truth. LOL.

Now I expect you to say: "Oops, I stand corrected." Do it. It will be good for you. I know it's rare, here, but it's the right thing to do, and when I'm wrong (which is fortunately rare but can happen anytime) I always do it.