It's Okay to Be Gay, So Long As You're White

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  1. Perriquine

    Perriquine On hiatus Past Donor

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    Offended yet? We're just getting started.

    In an opinion piece (read as incoherent ramble) bearing the title of this thread, Adam Kirk Edgerton (a white guy) opines on Huffington Post...something about same-sex marriage and race. What that something is supposed to be, I haven't quite figured out. Maybe you can help. A few excerpts:


    ??? Are we supposed to believe that the cases of Windsor and Obergefell made them some sort of "chosen ones" because they're white?

    Um, last I checked, non-white people ceased to be denied the right to marry some time ago, while same-sex couples in many states were still denied until a few months ago. The author appears to be confused. The struggle to attain marriage recognition wasn't about ascending into an institution of "white privilege".

    There's more:


    It's not a one-shot deal; there's no such thing as an achievable instantaneous equality for all minorities, all at once. One might point to the 14th amendment and say (depending on your interpretation), "well, it's already been written - done deal". But as I'm sure many can attest, what appears in lofty writing and the reality on the ground can be very different things.


    Still no clue what he's on about.

    A little later we're treated to some nonsense about the Obergefell decision codifying "the mainstream whiteness of gayness"; this somehow having something to do with a photo of six ambassadors who are both white and gay. Oh, brother! Sorry (not sorry), but perceptions of what constitutes 'mainstream' has a heck of a lot more to do with what media moguls and hollywood producers tell us to consider 'mainstream' than a Supreme Court decision or the skin color of ambassadors of our government. The latter could perhaps be construed to be saying something about a disparity of opportunity for advancement between white folk and non-white folk, but what does it have to do with the marriage issue? While the Obergefell decision does make same-sex relationships more mainstream-adjacent through legal recognition of our marriages, that has nothing to do with whiteness.

    It continues:


    More like there's an unbearable wealthiness to the LGBT equality movement. I'm looking at you, HRC.

    But point taken. Whites are still prominent in positions of power. Strides in legal equality haven't necessarily created a completely level playing field. It's a mistake to think changes in the law are all there is to the creation of opportunities that help people rise out of the class divisions created by longstanding institutionalized racism, sexism, or any other 'ism'.


    Thank you - finally something sensible and factual.


    Says the white author who appears to be mired in his own 'white guilt'.

    I refuse to feel guilty for being born white, or to apologize for the perceived privileges it affords me, as these are not situations of my own making. I think it's more important how I treat people as individuals, despite whatever privilege someone else views me as having been fortunately born into. From where I sit, the privileges of wealth are more universally observable than those associated with being white.

    Then there was this analogy:


    :roll:


    Who comes up wit this crap? I didn't get married to be 'mainstream' or to play by someone else' rules for my life. I did it for my own reasons and as an expression of my own beliefs.

    There is more to the article here:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-...y-as-lon_b_7943240.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices

    I have to run for now, but expect to return with more commentary on this nonsense.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    Is this person lacking knowledge on non- white cultural attitudes to homosexuality?

    Because that does account for much of the difference.
     
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    Victimization is a career goal in the US now.

    Because everything can be a slight if you shape your complaint just right.

    Gays get rights....the plaintiffs in the cases were white...must be racism at work.
     
  4. Perriquine

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    Actually, I didn't find anything else in the remainder of the article worthy of comment.
     
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    One of the biggest problems people have with the LGBT movement is how hard it is to identify members of it. Unless your gaydar or transciever is working, you can't tell who is LGBT. So to pin it on race, makes no sense. It's about a community who can't identify base upon race, not race itself.
     
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    The President, who is an African-American, picked up the phone and congratulated Mr. Obergefell when the Supreme Court legalized Gay Marriage.
     

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