Linky here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/13/friday-funny-dr-michael-mann-keeps-interesting-company/ Note: In the comments, someone posted a couple of links to the "temperature data analysis" material that I originally posted to the UT discussion-board (linky here: http://forums.utsandiego.com/showthread.php?t=111201). Here's what Anthony Watts had to say in response: Anyone who spends a few minutes perusing the above thread will see that I was *very* forthcoming about what I did with the data and how I arrived at my conclusions. My response to the "outing" can be viewed here: http://forums.utsandiego.com/showpost.php?p=4738258&postcount=113 (Note: Folks who find material in that UT thread helpful/informative are encouraged to post links to that thread on other discussion-boards. The more people who see that material, the better.) Anyway, Watts apparently wants me to deny that I'm a goth-rocker. For the record, I will neither confirm nor deny that I'm a hard-core goth with gnarly tattoos, body piercings, and dark fantasies about being a vampire.
Watts has to direct the conversation away from the record temps somehow and it looks like you, caerbannog, were chosen. Congratulations!
That was a particularly sulky tantrum from Watts. He actually does have a few good commenters, but most of them just rant about how much they hate Al Gore. And you can also see how tiny and inbred the denialist movement is. If it's on WUWT, it will be parroted by all denialists everywhere the next day. Since they don't have science, an opinion blog is all they have to work with.
Wow equating Dr. Mann to Jonas Salk? Have you no shame? Why didn't you go all out and just call him a modern day jesus? Me thinks your hero worship has gotten out of hand. Jonas Salk? Seriously?
PS. If you are the crow wannabe goth in the picture than I'm sure you have no trouble with Watts outing you because all goth are by definition attention seekers with low self-esteem.
The tweet was intended to be an expression of disgust at the slimy tactics of the professional denier crowd, not as any sort of "hero worship". If not for the slimy tactics of the dishonest deniers who have been attacking Mann all these years, he'd be just another journeyman scientist working away in obscurity -- so no, I don't consider him a hero. But he can't help but look like one when you compare him to the useless lowlifes who have been attacking him.
Folks, here's a fun little Windigo that I remember fondly from last year: http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...st-10-years-lies-alarmism-11.html#post4153304 Just wanted to remind folks where Windigo's coming from....
That should be: "Here's a fun little Windigo *post*..." Anyway, what's rather amusing about that WUWT/goth thing is that someone over at WUWT posted a couple of links to posts I had put up showing how to debunk Watts' favorite claims about NASA's global-temperature work. (Those posts not only showed my results, but included detailed explanations of the processing steps as well as links to all of the processing source code). Well, Watts and his followers weren't interested in any sort of meaningful technical discussion about processing temperature data. They were obviously much more interested in goth-style leather and chains. That's pretty much like Windigo -- never followed up to any of the posts I put up where not only did I provide the code he demanded, I explained in detail how it worked. He had zero interest in any of that -- just dropped it like a hot potato. But start a thread with a link to a "leather and chains" goth pic and he's all over it.
You compared him to the inventor of the Polio vaccine. As for him being another journeyman scientist. lol yeah like he wasn't already famous for inventing the hockey stick.
My leaving the forum for almost a year had nothing to do with you no matter how special you think you are. It is very ironic that you are posting this the same day that a paper was published in GRA finds that homogenization adjustments impart a positive bias http://itia.ntua.gr/en/docinfo/1212/ I guess you just wasted 2 years of your life. Of course 2 years ago people on your own thread were telling you that you were mistaken and what you regarded as raw data wasn't really raw but you didn't listen. Of course you would have known this if you bothered to look at what other people had done because they made the same mistake of assuming that the claimed "raw" data is truly raw.
I suggest you go over to air vent and see that what is and is not raw data and attempts at recreating reconstitutions have been done a lot longer than you started running around the internet acting like you did something original. You aren't the first one who found that GCHN V2 matches quite well because GCHN raw isn't really raw. You didn't find out anything new. You posted some obscure post on a San Diego News blog and made the same (*)(*)(*)(*) mistakes that numerous people before you have made.You haven't found out anything that wasn't already known years earlier. The worst thing is you have the gall to repeat the line that 'why didn't the deniers try and do this before me' when it has been done by numerous skeptics numerous times! Personally I think you have seen those threads on numerous blogs but like to pretend that you aren't a simply copying them. Much the same way you copied Von Stroch in your criticism of random noise hockey sticks from M&M. I have yet to find anything written by you on the internet that is truly original. It all just seems to be copies of what someone else has already done that you try and sell as your own original research.
No he would rather the affection be public. Caerbannog's ego is on full display in the first post of his UTsandiago thread. The thing with this quote is that it is a total lie. In the skeptic world there are multiple blogs and forums for various topics. If you want to talk proxy reconstructions climate audit is a good place. If you want to talk temperature record air vent is the place to go. Any fool can go to air vent and see literally years of discussion and analysis on the GISS, CRU and various station networks. http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/ There are mountains upon mountains of separate analysis done both war mists and skeptics all code and data supplied covering years and years. Caerbannog shows up January of last year redoing analysis that is years old acting like he is the smartest person ever. There isn't a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing that he has claims to have discovered that cant be found from other sources years older. That entire thread he linked to is a massive ego trip.
I liked the comments such as 'What a freakshow these warmists are'. Vehement denialists are a very strange bunch of people.
Oh the irony that you think comparing those who disagree with you to holocaust deniers is somehow a legitimate argument.
lol I think I hit a nerve with this guy. If you paid attention you would notice I'm not even trying to make an argument. I am just observing and pointing out how deluded and strange some staunch denialists (skeptics if denialists hurts your feelings, although there is a difference between a skeptic and a denialist) are.
Its not a question of my feelings. Its a question of your own hypocrisy. You use a word that is associated with the murder of millions out of hand. It shows a lot more about you than anything else. You think that because other like minded people use such an indefensible term that makes it okay.
How is that hypocritical or ironic? I wasn't trying to make a 'legitimate argument'. You are being overly sensitive. Clearly I have touched a nerve. You also need to pay attention to the context the word 'denialist' is being used in. Clearly we aren't calling them holocaust deniers. It is simply the most appropriate term to define some people in this debate. It's interesting that you feel the need to associate any use of the word 'denier' with the holocaust no matter the context...And please, don't assume things about people you don't know. It makes you look like an ass and ironically 'shows a lot more about you than anything else'
Please, it is a reference to Holocaust denial. It always has been. Alarmists have even written essays on how it is correct to equate skeptics with holocaust deniers. The thing is that when I might say on the forum that alarmists have gone of the deep end or are totally insane that at least takes some forethought. I'm intentionally insulting you. However, your side has become so accustomed to the ad hom that you can make the worst possible ad hom and you dont even realize that you are doing it and don't care. Its become so ingrained in your DNA that you don't even understand what a hypocrite you are. You are completely and totally self-righteous.
lol.. so now you are telling me what I mean when I say something? Are you psychic, omniscient or just an arrogant moron? Denialist does not solely refer to holocaust deniers anymore. There are many forms of denialism. Are you going to deny this and continue to make an ass of yourself? I can tell you are angry but lets try to remain logical here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism#Examples_of_use You are wrong. Wipe the spit off your monitor and deal with it. The discussion could end here, but the rest of your post was amusing and very easy to respond to. So some alarmists wrote essays on it therefore every alarmist equates skeptics with holocaust deniers? Trolling, stupid or blinded with anger and emotion..Which is it? lol. That is just sad. That post speaks volumes about your character. You really need to get out more. You are far too emotionally involved in this debate.
