Jamal Khashoggi Is Dead, Saudi Arabia Says (breaking news)

To all of the frauds screeching about KSA and how outrageous the killing of this journalist was, all I have to say is:

https://cpj.org/data/killed/mideast...art_year=1992&end_year=2018&group_by=location

Ebrahim Zalzadeh Mayar February 22, 1997
Omidreza Mirsayafi Rooznegar March 18, 2009
Sattar Beheshti Freelance November 3, 2012
Zahra Kazemi freelance July 10, 2003

 

War is death. That's what makes it so tantalizing. Everybody ain't coming home is a given.

 

First exploration into the concept was Reagan's. Works fairly good now, although still not at 100%. Every advance stands on somebody's shoulders.

 

So we should treat Saudi Arabia like Iran? What is your point here?

 

No way, Khashoggi was not an American citizen like the Iranian hostages. He's just not that important.

 

He lived and worked in America as a journalist. We cannot sell arms and place trust in such a barbaric and deceitful person like MBS.

 

They're both Sunni Muslims and within Islamic Law, I'm not so sure this is even a criminal act.

 

I'm wondering why we should sacrifice regional stability over one guy.

 

He's not an American citizen. He was a Saudi killed by his own Saudi's. In Turkey.

 

None of this makes what they did acceptable in the least. We can't pretend to stand for the rule of law while accepting this gross violation against human rights and even continuing to sell arms to the state responsible.

This should not even need to be explained, but that is the nature of the regime under which we live today. Human rights are used and ignored as our crooked leaders deem them important or unimportant in a given case. One good thing about the fake president we have now is that he so openly and unapologetically expresses this hypocrisy. He has stated that Saudi money is extremely influential in how we treat them. He states what we all know but what his predecessors would never have so openly stated. Our values are ultimately a farce in politics, a tool for public manipulation. Money talks loudest.

 

Lol you don't get it, do you? No one believes your false outrage. In 2016 when the report came out (during Obama) that KSA had government involvement in 9/11, I never saw thread after thread of outrage from your side. I've been calling to cut all ties with them for YEARS. And now you pretend that KSA has done something wrong?

Absolutely no one believes this false outrage, bro. No one.

 

Actually it only occasionally intercepts a test missile when the exact trajectory of the invading missile is programmed into the intercepting missile. The whole thing is a boondoggle.

 

Pathetic. The statement was the overwhelming majority of climate scientist belive in AGW. And all you can do is quote a blog about the majority of scientists or the primary cause. Nice try though.

 

The 28 pages that were released didn't have solid evidence of direct involvement by the KSA government because they were mostly whitewashed by Bush officials.

 

• American Association for the Advancement of Science
  "The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." (2006)3
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  American Chemical Society
  "Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)4
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  American Geophysical Union
  "Human‐induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013)5
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  American Medical Association
  "Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant." (2013)6
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  American Meteorological Society
  "It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide." (2012)7
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  American Physical Society
  "The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now." (2007)8
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  The Geological Society of America
  "The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities (mainly greenhouse‐gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s." (2006; revised 2010)9

SCIENCE ACADEMIES
International academies: Joint statement
"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)." (2005, 11 international science academies)10

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  U.S. National Academy of Sciences
  "The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere." (2005)11

U.S. GOVERNMENT AGENCIES

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  U.S. Global Change Research Program
  "The global warming of the past 50 years is due primarily to human-induced increases in heat-trapping gases. Human 'fingerprints' also have been identified in many other aspects of the climate system, including changes in ocean heat content, precipitation, atmospheric moisture, and Arctic sea ice." (2009, 13 U.S. government departments and agencies)12

INTERGOVERNMENTAL BODIES

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  Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
  “Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia. The atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the amounts of snow and ice have diminished, and sea level has risen.”13
  
  “Human influence on the climate system is clear, and recent anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are the highest in history. Recent climate changes have had widespread impacts on human and natural systems.”14

OTHER RESOURCES
List of worldwide scientific organizations
The following page lists the nearly 200 worldwide scientific organizations that hold the position that climate change has been caused by human action.
http://www.opr.ca.gov/facts/list-of-scientific-organizations.html

 

Guess you couldn't take your AGW blinders off and really read this. If you had you would understand that the 97% number includes skeptics that think our C02 is having little discernable impact on climate.

 

Everybody's saying it, it must be true. Lol
Unfortunately that's not how science works.

 

Then we got to move the Doomsday clock up a couple notches.

 

All them so-called skientists are eating well off global warming.

 

Getting on the global warming bandwagon is definitely the road to riches for anyone calling themselves a scientist. It's a cash cow to milk.

 

That's the argument that Saudi Arabia is making. Interesting that you'd say that.

 

So true... Both are Sunni Moslems so Islamic law should apply... and I'm a Sunni Moslem myself and Im 100 % sure that this is not even a criminal act according to the book.. So let them deal with this.

 

What stability?

 

It's called TLS (The Lavrov Stability)
How effective stability it is... mmm so stable... it even felt more stable when Ivanov was the cheerleader of ending the Nuclear treaties with the US and the US remained calm and kept them going for the sake of the world peace but then Russian cheats came along due to that natural instinct of losing even all the odds were favoring them big time and cheated even more... till the populist Trump, the guy once fancy Kremlin proms and parties were thrown for has decided to pull out the US... then the sadness showed it ugly face... ranting about the global stability....
So there goes TLS... Goodbye should we say...

 

Why not? We gave sanctuary to Kahashoggi, a Muslim theocrat who did nothing for us and was no kind of ally.