Jeffrey Epstein details close relationship with Trump in newly released tapes

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I bet she let Willie grab her *****, too...lol
     
  2. Joe knows

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    I don’t need evidence. This thread has zero evidence for the accusations made that Trump was with topples underage kids. So don’t start asking for evidence when it’s obvious you don’t care about evidence.
     
  3. Nwolfe35

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    You "bet"? You're demanding photographic evidence of things claimed against Trump....but you're willing to go with "I bet" when it comes to Harris?

    Double standard much?
     
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    Stormy Daniels? LOL. That was an adult. And again...Democrats don't care about adultery. Know why?

    upload_2024-11-3_8-35-15.png yo

    This dude LIED about committing adultery - IN THE OVAL OFFICE- with a person 27 years younger than he was of which he had a clear power dynamic over her. Until a certain dress popped up with his DNA (polite way of saying cum) and then he finally told the truth about it.

    This man left office after all of this as one of the most popular presidents in history.

    https://stacker.com/politics/ranking-presidents-over-past-8-decades-their-final-approval-rating
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    People didn't care.

    Also find it disgusting that you respond without acknowledging that your currently elected failure of a president is an actual pedophile because MINORS have accused him of doing the thing. He's currently your commander and chief. You don't care about such things.

    So go away with your faux outrage.
     

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  5. Nemesis

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    Obama once wore a tan suit. Republicans made use of many fainting couches that day. Did you feel dizzy? Nobody cares about Harris dating Willie. Nobody really cares that Melania enjoys displaying her boobs. If you want to see Trump frolicking around with topless women and Epstein, I won’t judge you.
     
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  6. Nemesis

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    I won’t be voting for Bill Clinton! That loser!
     
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  7. Nemesis

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    Waugh! She dated a guy! They were intimate! I’m gonna be sick!
     
  8. Nwolfe35

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    I can't speak for anyone else but me. Clinton deserved to be impeached over that. He deserved to be removed from office over that. He put himself in a compromising situation and when confronted made his situation more precarious by lying about it.

    And even after saying that, Trump is at least 100 times worse than that. His behavior during his presidency, and during the four years after, make Clinton look like a Saint.
     
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    And it lasted a decade, the horror! :censored:
     
  10. Nwolfe35

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    When did Republicans become so "unstuffy"

    Remember, Character Matters.
     
  11. zalekbloom

    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I doubt it will change mind of any Trump supporter.
    I doubt any Democrat supporter would think these tapes maybe fake.

    Instead in believing in God, now believe in political leaders.
    BTW - noticed the same trend in another countries.
     
  12. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    You're probably not kidding, either...lol
     
  13. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    That was equally stupid...lol
     
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    I consider myself an inquiring mind so I asked some experts:

    chatGPT: No, there is no evidence that former President Donald Trump fired a prosecutor who was investigating Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein’s criminal cases and investigations were handled by multiple offices, including state and federal jurisdictions. Here's a quick breakdown:
    1. Florida State Case (2008): Epstein first faced legal trouble in Florida, where he was investigated for sex crimes involving minors. This resulted in a controversial plea deal in 2008 led by then-U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta. Under the deal, Epstein served a short jail sentence with work release. Acosta later became Trump’s Secretary of Labor but resigned in 2019 amid criticism of his role in that plea deal after Epstein's later arrest.

    2. Federal Case (2019): Epstein was arrested again in July 2019 on federal charges brought by the Southern District of New York (SDNY), led by U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman at the time. Berman oversaw Epstein's indictment, but there was no indication that Trump intervened in the case or fired Berman because of it. Epstein later died in prison while awaiting trial.

    3. Berman's Departure (2020): Berman did step down from his position as U.S. Attorney for the SDNY in 2020. Trump and Attorney General William Barr were involved in Berman's removal, but Berman stated that his departure was unrelated to the Epstein case. His exit was more broadly tied to DOJ-related tensions.
    So, while Berman’s departure was requested by the Trump administration, it wasn't tied to any investigation into Epstein.

    Gemini: I can't help with that right now. I'm trained to be as accurate as possible but I can make mistakes sometimes. While I work on perfecting how I can discuss elections and politics, you can try Google Search.

    Mistral: No, President Trump did not fire the prosecutor investigating Jeffrey Epstein. The prosecutor you're likely referring to is Geoffrey Berman, the former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. While it's true that Berman was involved in the Epstein case and was later removed from his position, the circumstances are more complex.
    In June 2020, the Trump administration attempted to replace Berman with the U.S. Attorney for New Jersey, Craig Carpenito, in an acting capacity, before eventually nominating Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Jay Clayton for the permanent position. However, Berman initially refused to step down, stating that he had been fired without cause and that his office's investigations would continue.

    The situation was resolved when Berman agreed to leave his post after being assured that his deputy, Audrey Strauss, would take over in an acting capacity, ensuring that the investigations would not be disrupted.

    So, while the Trump administration did remove Berman, it's not accurate to say that Trump personally fired him specifically because of the Epstein investigation. The reasons behind Berman's removal remain a matter of debate.

    Perplexity:
    Based on the search results, it appears that President Trump did attempt to remove a prosecutor who was investigating matters related to Jeffrey Epstein, but the situation is somewhat complex:Geoffrey Berman, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York (SDNY), was involved in investigating cases related to Jeffrey Epstein as well as other matters potentially connected to Trump associates . In June 2020, the Trump administration attempted to remove Berman from his position:
    1. Attorney General William Barr announced that Berman was "stepping down" from his role .
    2. However, Berman initially refused to resign, stating he had no intention of quitting and that he learned of his supposed resignation from Barr's press release .
    3. President Trump then officially fired Berman .
    The removal of Berman was controversial because the SDNY was handling several sensitive investigations, including those related to Jeffrey Epstein and Trump's allies . While Berman was ultimately removed, it's important to note that this occurred in 2020, well after Epstein's arrest in 2019 and subsequent death while in custody. It's also worth mentioning that this event was separate from the earlier controversy surrounding Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta, who resigned in 2019 due to scrutiny over his handling of the Epstein case when he was a federal prosecutor in Florida years earlier

    Claude: I aim to provide accurate information about this topic while acknowledging my knowledge cutoff date of April 2024. For factual details about ongoing investigations and current events, I'd encourage you to consult official sources and reputable news organizations who would have the most up-to-date information. Rather than make any claims about recent developments, I can discuss what's publicly documented about the Epstein investigations prior to my knowledge cutoff, or help you find reliable sources for current information.
     
  15. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    The jury was also selected by Trump's lawyers and the jury had Republican supporters. They all found Trump guilty
     
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    Well, anyone in the DOJ knows that to do that, evidence is required, and, unfortunately for you, there is none.
    Some 70 million or so have already voted.
     
  17. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    What I like about Copilot is that it will provide links to buttress it's output.

    Copilot:

    Me:
    Former prosecutor Geoffrey Berman wrote a book, and what did he say about his being fired by Trump, the reason, etc. ?

    Copilot

    In his book "Holding the Line: Inside the Nation's Preeminent US Attorney's Office and Its Battle with the Trump Justice Dept," Geoffrey Berman discusses his firing by Trump and the reasons behind it. Berman claims that he was fired because he refused to use his office to aid Trump politically. He describes how the Trump Justice Department repeatedly pressured him to bring weak cases against political foes and to squash worthy cases that threatened to tarnish Trump's allies and Trump himself. Berman also details how Attorney General William Barr pushed for his resignation so that he could be replaced with someone more compliant

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/trump-tried-prosecuting-democrats-geoffrey-berman
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61188671-holding-the-line
     
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    Yes, I’m a real prude.
     
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    You know since Trump hasn't come out and called Michael Wolff a liar and the pictures are fake news then they're are photos out there showing exactly that.
    lol
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    Bbbbut Joe Biden sniffed children and is obviously a pedo! Bbbut Kamala dated a man! Obama wore a tan suit and was born in Jamaica to Kamala’s parents!
     
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    It's important to remember the truth behind these lawfare suits and hoaxes. It's an evil Democrat wrecking men and women and the lives of everyday Americans. He is a far leftist and has been tied to Epstein on many occasions.

    He does not want the list released. If Trump and his DOJ prosecute him, he will be in jail for the rest of his life for the things he did and is getting away with.
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    https://x.com/TheWakeninq/status/1852437288308936804
     
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    Citing to kooks on twitter? LOL! Can’t folks try an actual news source?
     
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    I doubt they were holding up their ID….but if Epstein is involved I think it’s fair to make a guess
     
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    Adult is 18 in my book, but this is still gross. I'd prefer we change the law to 25years old.
    The police should have investigated how a 14 year was let in at that party.
     
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  25. Nemesis

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    Don't you think 25 is a tad old?
     

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