Jesus was white

how did he sabatage himself if he showed that ashkanzi are indeed related to the likes of Georgians? That proves his point of a european descent from Khazaria.

 

You might be talking about them, im talking about the major jewish population in Israel whom you claim are descended from biblical Israel, ashkenzai.

 

Sargon of Akkad/Nebu babylonian king. Moot point.

They may appear caucasian today but that is due to intermixing with europeans. Assad is a perfect example, he is as european as you get. If he isnt european then europeans dont exist. You can scream until you are blue in the face but until you provide something to justify your claim that babylonians were caucasian then your cause is futile. Maybe you need to ditch the thoroughly discredited term caucasian. The scientific community generally rejects that term today.

 

kindly name his European ancestors.

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the majority of Israeli Jews are not Ashkenazi, but Mizrahi.

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where does the Torah say this?

 

1)Khazars weren't european first of all. They were a turkic mongol people.

2)Elhaik said that ashkenazi jews are related to south caucasians, the georgians and armenians who are mixed with middle easterners. The khazar kingdom lied further north than georgia and armenia. I have already explained all of this. And it was only the khazar ruling class that converted to judaism. Again, they were turkic peoples. The ashkenazi jews are yiddish speakers (a medieval german dialect mixed with hebrew, aramaic, romance, and slavic languages...sorry no turkic or mongol influences)

Khazars were not even of european origin, they were turkic-mongols.

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Assad is not european. You can scream until you are blue in the face that he is, but he is Syrian. You have no evidence that he is european, if you do, please show me.

This is getting very silly.

 

Mizrahim are the major jewish population of Israel and the official language of Israel is sefaradic hebrew, not ashkenazi. But on the subject of ashkenazi, I already showed you the autosomal studies which point to a largely near eastern origin. I'm tired of talking about them because I have already done so extensively. Mizrahi jews make up over half the population of Israel, not ashkenazi. And now there is such a high intermarriage rate between the two groups that the terms are becoming obsolete. Many Israeli sabras come from european jewish and middle eastern jewish backgrounds, and even if they are 'half ashkenazi', the ashkenazi genome is largely middle eastern anyway. Geez..

 

Turks are european by the way.

Georgia is very close to Khazaria, almost bordering it.
It wasnt just the ruling class who converted, every body did. If a nation is jewish then so are the ppl unless otherwise. Maybe they were secular jewish lol. Its like ppl nowadays claim christianity but we all know that non of them practice. In 100 years time america will not be what it is today and the idea that it was christian will be scoffed at.

 

FALSE..with of course no evidence.

and no, Turks are a mixture of Europeans, Asians, and Muslim migrants.

 

Turkic peoples are not european, even the turkish language is altaic, not indo-european. Turkic peoples come from central asian and the turkic languages are related to mongolian.

The samples were taken from Georgia and Armenia, you keep leaving Armenia out. Both nations are heavily mixed with middle easterners, one of the reasons why some are so dark skinned. Any foreign dna of ashkenazim comes from southern european converts, not from khazaria which was a turkic kingdom north of these nations. Genetic studies have shown the closest relatives of ashkenazi jews are the sefaradic jews and they cluster on plots the closest with moroccan and syrian jews. The closest non jewish and non middle eastern relatives to ashkenazim are italians.

And what about the georgian jews? They are mizrahi too. Are they khazars?

 

Census says;
Ashkenazi 45%
Sephardi + mizrahi 50%

hmm, looks like ashken are the majority.

Maybe you need to ammend this page: http://www1.cbs.gov.il/reader/shnaton/shnatone_new.htm?CYear=2010&Vol=61&CSubject=2

 

its now 2014, and Mizrahi make up more than 50% of the Jews.

 

A language does not denote a persons heritage, The irish speak english but are Irish, Jamaicans speak english but are Jamaican. See.

The Turks are a very mixed bunch, a bit like jewish ppl.

That these ppl you mention cluster does not denote an Israelite ancestry. How hard is that to understand?

idont doubt that some jewish ppl cluster from various regions, its a traditional thing like how Israelites cluster.

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you should contact the Israeli Census Bureau and tell them their stats are outdated!

 

There is no evidence that Jesus or the Sumerians were black.

Its just fantasy and racist wishful thinking

 

yep and also, he provides no evidence either but then again why would you question him..let him be wrong why not, suits me fine.

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You can take a horse to the water but you cant make him drink it, or words to that affect.

 

you have made many claims, with no evidence.

you claim the Bible says Sumeria was black....but show no evidence.

you claim the Bible says all of Noah's sons were black,....but show no evidence.

you claim the Bible says Jesus had kinky hair.....but show no evidence.

your claims are pretty worthless, bro.

 

Um if they are 45% then they are not the majority. You just proved what I said.

 

The Khazars themselves were turkic, not european. How many times have I said this. They had turkic origins. Turkic people come from central asia. How can you not understand this?

 

nor did all of them convert to Judaism.

its an absurd claim, with no evidence to support it.

 

Turkic peoples:

The Turkic peoples are a collection of ethnic groups that live in northern, eastern, central, and western Asia, northwestern China, and parts of eastern Europe. They speak languages belonging to the Turkic language family.[10] They share, to varying degrees, certain cultural traits and historical backgrounds. The term Turkic represents a broad ethno-linguistic group of peoples including existing societies such as the Turkish people, Azerbaijanis, Chuvashes, Kazakhs, Tatars, Kyrgyz, Turkmens, Uyghurs, Uzbeks, Bashkirs, Qashqai, Gagauz, Yakuts, Crimean Karaites, Krymchaks, Karakalpaks, Karachays, Balkars, Nogais and as well as past civilizations such as Göktürks, Kumans, Kipchaks, Avars, Bulgars, Turgeshes, Khazars, Seljuk Turks, Ottoman Turks, Mamluks, Timurids, Khiljis, and possibly Karasuk culture, Huns and the Xiongnu.[10][11][12]

Origins:

Turkic peoples and related groups migrated west from Turkestan and what is now Mongolia towards Eastern Europe, Iranian plateau and Anatolia and modern Turkey in many waves.[50] The date of the initial expansion remains unknown. After many battles, they established their own state and later created the Ottoman Empire.[51] The main migration occurred in medieval times, when they spread across most of Asia and into Europe and the Middle East.[32] They also participated in the Crusades.[52]

 

Pics of turkic people





Not white or european, sorry.

 

Turkish women.

 

Without being terribly interested in the whole Black African Mesopotamians business...

It might be of relevance that various African groups have a tradition of painting their skin different colors. Take the Himba people of Namibia for instance, who smear their bodies with red ocher to protect their skin from the desert climate.



And then you have the Mende people of Sierra Leone whose women paint themselves white as part of their initiation rites:



Given that Egypt has a desert climate like Namibia, maybe the Egyptians painted their bodies to protect their skin from the dry air too? Maybe that's alluded to in the wall paintings with ocher-red men and yellow women?

We actually do know the Egyptians painted their mummies red or yellow during one dynasty:

---The Evolution of the Technique of Mummification

(Mind you, I'm in agreement with EgalitarianJay02 that ancient Egyptians were predominantly Black, though they did assimilate Middle Eastern and Mediterranean people over time.)

 

The Turkish population's African genetic component is 10.7% (E) and Central Asian contributions to the Turkish gene pool are around 5% (L, Q) and 85% of Y-DNA haplogroups in Turkey are considered to be Caucasian or European.

- J2=24% - J2 (M172)[5] Typical of west Mediterranean populations.
- R1b=14.7%[5] Widespread in western Eurasia, with distinct 'west Asian' and 'west European' lineages.
- G=10.9%[5] - Typical of people from the Caucasus and to a lesser extent the Middle East.
- E3b-M35=10.7%[5] (E3b1-M78 and E3b3-M123 accounting for all E representatives in the sample, besides a single E3b2-M81 chromosome). E-M78 occurs commonly, and is found in northern and eastern Africa, western Asia[20] Haplogroup E-M123 is found in both Africa and Eurasia.
- J1=9%[5] - Typical amongst people from the Arabian Peninsula and Dagestan (ranging from 3% from Turks around Konya to 12% in Kurds).
- R1a=6.9%[5] - Common in various Central Asian, Indian, and Eastern European populations.
- I=5.3%[5] - Common in Balkans and eastern Europe, possibly representing a back-migration to Anatolia.
- K=4.5%[5] - Typical of Asian populations and Caucasian populations.
- L=4.2%[5] - Typical of Indian Subcontinent and Khorasan populations. Found sporadically in the Middle East and the Caucasus.
- N=3.8%[5] - Typical of Uralic, Siberian and Altaic populations.
- T=2.5%[5] - Typical of Mediterranean, Middle Eastern, Northeast African and South Asian populations
- Q=1.9%[5] - Typical of Northern Altaic populations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_the_Turkish_people

 

Turkic is turkish. Turkey is in europe. The Turkic language spread over asia AND europe. Pretty simple. The Kazars were a mix of Eurasian.

 

You combined sephardi and mizrahi as one ethnic group and come to the 50% figure. Thats how you are wrong.
Its my belief you are a racist purely because of your non factual insistence that the biblical Israelites were caucasians. That is denying the non-caucasian biblical Israelites of their history. You, as a caucasian, are trying to claim a history of a non-caucasian ppl and that to me is racist. It is the same as white supremecists who deny Afrika its heritage by laying claims to Ancient Egypt as a caucasian dynasty. No difference.