Job is Jashub ben-Isaachar

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    Did you ever look at something for years and finally change your opinion?
    In a coffee table version of the KJV that I have owned since 1979, in 1 Chronicles 9 it has a mark next to the name Jashub and in the margin says Job. At the time I dismissed any possibility that could be the Job of Job for no good reason. At last I changed my opinion.
    Though he is mentioned, no descendants are named.
    It occurred to me that from year 6 to 17 in Goshen, while his father and uncles feared what Joseph might do to them after their father's death he might have moved out to the again fertile lands, heading further northeast to the land of Uz, now supposed to be in Syria.
    This is further supported by the thought that his friend Bildad the Shuhite was descended from Shuah, son of Abraham after Sarah died. Another friend was descended from Abraham's brother Haran. Those would be third and fourth cousins respectively.
     
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    You got it all wrong.

    One reason you got it wrong is because you were hood-winked by the nefarious translators of the King Joke Vision.

    Had you bothered to read the Stuttgart Bible (which is based on Codex Leningradis) you might actually have a clue.

    The Hebrews did not write Job. They simply borrowed it from the original Sumerian text, as did many other cultures in Mesopotamia.

    The Job text has more Sumerian-Akkadian loan-words than any other Hebrew text.

    The Job story exists on clay tablets from 7,000 years ago, or roughly 5,000 BCE, long before Abram/Abraham was born.

    There are many variations of the Job-story which predate the current existing bible that was cobbled together, predates the Hebrew language, and predates Abram/Abraham.

    If you want to look at something, you might want to look at the original texts, unless you're afraid.
     
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    Mircea you win and you lose.
    You win because I looked up oldest written documents. You lose because it proves you a liar.
     
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    There is a new nominee for oldest written document since I last looked. It's a business agreement regarding barley. They estimate it at 3200 bc. That does not contradict the Bible at all. Adam, Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahalaleel and Jared were alive then. This would also be the era of the Scorpion King.
    There is on it the word Kushim, which might be a name. That would make Kushim the most ancient human with a name outside of religious literature, replacing the first pharoah Menes.
    They have now moved the Epic of Gilgamesh back to the 2100s bc. They'd love to get it to 2400 bc but they never will.
    In 2100 bc Noah and Shem were still alive and might have written it.
     
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    Your fantasy has nothing to do with my post anyway. It was aimed at Christians, maybe a Jew or Muslim, who would either reply with, "I think you're right" or "You're wrong and here's why..."
    Even within Mircea's lie there is a responsibility to be consistent. Would every word of the original be preserved as written and would that include Bildad the Shuhite and Barachel the Buzite, or would these be added to put the story into a context that fits with Genesis?
     
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    Wow!!!!

    I had heard decades ago that Job was descended from Issachar so I really like your theory!
     

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