Joe Biden Is Screwing the Hard Working Middle-Class Over

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    … the Biden administration has made it obvious they are out to get hard-working middle class Americans, and instead cater to spoiled liberals by not making them work to pay for their education…

    ...“This is appalling, as someone, and I’ll just speak personally, as someone who was the first in my family to graduate from college that worked full time and then paid my student loans,” Pekau said during a Breitbart interview, noting that he also worked overtime to pay off his children’s and wife’s student loans as well.

    Pekau said the government is basically punishing those who either already paid off their loans or those who are having to spare tax dollars for those who decided to go to college.

    “And now the government’s gonna come in and say, ‘Oh, don’t bother paying that back.’ When they took out that, they knew what they were doing… and all of the people that took this debt out, they’re adults, and they made those decisions and you’re asking other people to pay for the decisions that that they’ve made,” Pekau said.

    He went on to say that it is unfair to parents who have had to work really hard so that their kids can receive an education, questioning why those people should have to shell out money so that someone else’s child can go to college.

    Pekau slammed Biden for screwing over the working class instead of helping them. …









    read more: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2022/08/28/joe-biden-is-throwing-the-workingclass-under-the-bus-n2612342









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    e the working and lower middle class of America are getting corkscrewed w/o Vaseline by the let’s go Brandon regime. They are benefiting a small number of children of the elites and making the the working and middle class pay for it. Well off young people who knowingly took out loans will now be relieved of some of them by taxing farmers, factory workers , and mom and pop businesses to pay for it.
     
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    We the people are so screwed
     
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    we the people will be so screwed to have more american (maga!) doctors, engineers, and teachers, and scientists.
     
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    When Sarah Arnold writes anything that isn't melodramatic propaganda salted with hate of anything left of Jerry Falwell, Sr., please do let me know.
     
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    This is wrong for people not to have to pay off their debts ... the subcontractors who worked for Trump when he declared bankruptcy know how this feels. We should ask them how
    unfair it is, shouldn't we? What do you think?
     
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    So your going to ignore the fact that its the middle class that takes out the most college loans.
     
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    The middle class used Jr college and worked their way through college and got scholarships and grants to get through. They also kept their loans to a minimum and they or their parents paid them off , sacrificing other things to be able to do so. I left college $14,000 in in loan debt in 1985 and paid it all off by 1991. I bought my first new car in 1991 and when it was paid off in 1996 I bought my house and started saving toward retirement. When I retire I will have no mortgage or rent payment and no credit card debt. This is what the middle class does.
     
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    So your STILL going to ignore the fact that its the middle class that takes out the most college loans.
     
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    I think we, as the taxpaying citizens of this country, should stop f*****g fighting with each other and unite against the real problem our country faces, the politicians.

    This is something I just can't understand: we are the TAXPAYING CITIZENS of this country, without us there is no money to fund America, we have the power to stop all the bs.

    But unfortunately we are so divided that the POLITICIANS win and the taxpaying citizens loose.
     
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    It is "us" taxpaying citizens causing this mess in the first place. The politicians just give us what the voters want to have.

    The reality is that, at large, the taxpaying citizens want all the benefits of big government, they just don't want to pay for them. The electorate as a whole acts like a 2 year of toddler -- have your cake and eat it too. That's why we get all the spending, but also tax cuts to make sure we don't pay for the spending.

    Both sides are complicit in this scheme, although it is only one side that actually pretends it is not -- in order to garner more votes.
     
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    Riddle me this:

    If Republicans/'conservatives' are adamantly determined that people pay their debts, why are they not in favor of raising taxes to pay off our national debt?

    Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n remember the Big 5.
     
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    Yep, or another question I have asked several times, with no answer from Republicans yet: Why does the GOP always cut taxes first and pretends to cut spending second (which then never happens)? If they were really fiscally conservative, they would cut spending first, and THEN cut taxes.

    I know the answer to this question, but as usual, the self-proclaimed fiscal hawks won't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
     
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    You don't think that any hard working middle class people have student debt?

    You don't think that any hard working middle class people have kids with student debt?

    This is going to help hard working middle class people more than it helps any other group. It just shows how out of touch the Republicans are to think that messaging this as an attack on the people who will see real life benefit from it is a good idea.
     
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    Please show factual data supporting your claim
     
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    Hi, Quantum Nerd.

    Politicians, whether of the left, right, or center, are politicians. I checked one of my reference works and found this:

    "Position, n. An ideological point on the political map. To take a position is to plant both feet firmly on an undefined location. The basic map coordinates are ego and the political zeitgeist.

    "A politician, one fine day
    Said, with a lofty air:
    'I'm standing on my principles.
    I'm sure you'll find them fair.'

    "And then he turned and walked away.
    I checked the floor with care;
    Examined where he just had stood,
    But there was nothing there."


    A Modern Dictionary, Fragmentary Press, 2016, Chelm, IA

    The book, a limited edition, is out of print.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    Well, the more educated, the more ability to disseminate info and think critically. can't have that when you have to worship a defeated demigod canonized by the Christo Neo Fascists.
    She's a piece of work, thriving on the hate and vitriol wearing the cloak of righteousness.
     
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    It’s not the middle class that buries itself in debt for questionable degrees and demands others pay for it for us
     
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    I disagree, first I want it known that I hate both sides R & D are both corrupt parties with only their best interest in mind. That said, the voters can only vote on what your corrupt politicians allow you to vote on. Have we ever been allowed to vote on if Congress gets a raise? Or if we approve or not of a tax increase? If the taxpayers were allowed to vote on allowing illegals into this country with taxpayers footing the bill do you really think that taxpayers would overwhelmingly approve?


    Do this: take out your phone start recording and go down the street asking the TAXPAYING citizens you come in contact with how they would vote.
     
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    Because if you look at the US government pie spending chart, and look at the GDP(Gross domestic product), we've more than done our fair share. Even with current tax rates and tax loopholes, the government is NOT at a shortage of money. I repeat, the US Federal Government has had a larger tax pool than at any time in developed history.

    So why is the national debt ballooning? @Quantum Nerd alluded to it(though to be clear, he doesn't agree with my position). The Federal Government has also spent more than at any time in developed history. To make matters worse, this spending is not actually on infrastructure, arts, science, etc. It's mostly on the big-3: Medicare, medicaid and US military defense. In fact, under Biden and a Democratic House of Reps, we have the largest defense budget in history, nearly eclipsing 50% of total spending. Insanity!

    My position has been that it's time to break up the spending of the big 3, investing more at home and through those investments ironically enough costs will go down. And as costs go down, the GDP will take a higher percentage of the debt chart, and we'll eventually get back to that 1990's level. Democrats believe the way to get back there is higher taxes, but that isn't going to do anything because even if the government gets even MORE revenue, the government will immediately spend that revenue.

    TLDR: The government sucks at budgeting, what the government is good at, is convincing YOU that you're the problem(or that the top-1% is the main problem)
     
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    Hi, AmericanNationalist.

    Thank you for your extensive reply to my little tongue-in-cheek post.

    There's much piolitical palaver about the national debt and the annual deficit. There are folks who seem to muddle the two. My fellow Americans cover a wide spectrum of knowledge of economics.

    I agree that our defense budget needs some serious consideration. In the past, there was a commission which did just that, and a number of base closings in the US was the result. Since then, though, our legislators have shown little interest.

    As far as the national debt goes, it's likened from time to time to family debt. That's a poor comparison. It does have one point of similarity, though. It's not the size of the debt that can be a problem. It's the difficulty, if any in paying the interest. When that becomes a problem, other things suffer.

    In the spirit of TLDR, TMALSS, I see little in the way of major federal governmental budget/tax changes for the next 4 years.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    The middle class is antithetical to autocratic totalitarianism.
     
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    Couldn't agree more; autocratic totalitarians, aka political and social conservatives.
     
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    TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
    Try staying on topic and forget about your obsession with an ex president that doesn't even know your name
     
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    Even in the 1920s, Republicans had the same disdain for working Americans as they do today in the 2020s.
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    Spot on quote!
     

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