John McCain viewed more favorably by Arizona Democrats than by Republicans

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  1. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's nonsense, Assad is fighting all the terrorists, like AQ, ISIS, and Al-Nursa, these are the ones that would bomb us, kill our innocent civilians. When was the last time Assad killed any Americans? You folks have some f'ed up priorities if you'd side with terrorists who'd gladly kill Americans if given the chance...
     
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    Yea Assad is a real patriot, side with someone who wants to kill me. You can't make this **** up. smfh.
     
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    Assad isn't our enemy, where do you get that nonsense? ISIS and AQ are our enemies, they've both attacked us, killed real Americans, and that's who Obama and McCain supported. Name one American Assad has killed, I can name over three thousand AQ and ISIS have killed. You, Obama, McCain, and everyone who supports terrorists are more of enemies to me and America than Assad will ever be...
     
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    Why did Trump bomb him?

    I know who the enemies are, show me where ISIS and AQ are running the opposition to Assad.

    That's just more stupid babble, that really doesn't deserve a reply.
     
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    Trump bombed him because he's not a wuss like Obama was. There is no 'redline' with Trump, there are actions and reactions.

    I know who the enemy is too, and its not Assad, its the people who support terrorists, I don't care who they are, president, senator, or random internet poster, those who support terrorists are always the enemy...
     
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    Get a new line, Pres. Obama, Sen McCain and no one else in America supports terrorist or terrorism.

    https://www.vox.com/cards/isis-myths-iraq/isis-syrian-rebels
     
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    Yeah right, and Libya is doing better now than before Obama.

    Anyway ISIS was a Syrian born group, they grew there, they conquered there and then went to Iraq. That site you linked is simply wrong and has an agenda to tell us otherwise. It proves nothing, but we've all been through this before, when Obama let ISIS prosper, directly or indirectly. No need to have to go over it again...
     
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    Did you whine when Reagan tried to take out Khadfi.

    Wasn't it a Jordanian called the "stranger" that formed ISIS from Al Qaeda.
     
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    I was 11 when Reagan bombed Khaddaffi, so honestly I didn't whine about that, probably about having to go to bed without desert, but not that. Does that make me a hypocrite?

    ISIS was formed in Syria. Who, what, or why is irrelevant to the WHERE...
     
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    If he was the nominee in 2016, the same questions about his age/health would've appeared(even before we learned of his tumor) and his neoconservative views would've had me vote third party, since HRC is a neo-con and I wanted to avoid the war in Eurasia.
     
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    So is Hillary a putin puppet this week or a war with Russia advocate? Shifts weekly with you folks.
     
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    He attacked Trump and his supporters so Trump attacked him back.
    We respected his military service, found his backstabbing to be a source of constant irritation.
    Reuters polling: McSally rallying in AZ up two, Heller up six.
     
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    I'm not worried about McCain anymore. But I could never be a Trump supporters once he said our POWs were bad soldiers because they got caught. As for Arizona, I still think Sinema is still the slight favorite.
     
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    And yet when General Wesley Clark denigrated his service for his capture you excused it and Sinema actually openly slandered our troops, while they were in the field and promoted a traitor who was helping the Blind Sheik communicate with his terrorist followers from Prison. In fact, OBL stated that the Blind Sheik issued the call the precipitated the 9/11 attacks.

    All that you're fine with, but Trump has you all butt-hurt. Seems a bit forced, feigned and contrived.
     
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    Get used to it. McCain got fit into the democrat narrative and they're gonna use it for awhile. He become more of a democrat as time went on anyway. Of course democrats like McCain more than republicans like him; it couldn't be any other way.
     
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    I was stunned by his "Build The Dang Fence" ads during his re-election and then his complete betrayal. Then he called the base that went to the wall to get him elected "Crazies" when they supported Trump. How many times did we support these Establishment Sonfabitches when they won, but when we won the primaries, they packed up and left! So much for the fkn coalition was supposedly had with them! Papa Bush even voted for Hillary and Boy Bush didn't vote! This after the Base supported the Bush's through Hell and High water.

    No one will ever be able to take away from McCain his sheer heroism during the most difficult of circumstances, but what a backstabbing sonfabitch he was as a politician.
     
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    Big deal.:bored:

    That is just your opinion.

    And, so what?:bored:
     
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    I never heard of Clark's statement. Sinema, I'm more of a numbers guy than a partisan one. The numbers speak for themselves. As for 2016, my disdain for both major party candidates caused me to vote third party, against both. I also have very little use for either major party.
     
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    It's funny. Conservatism is so awful they have to appraise your level of commitment. Like, your beliefs are so odious you need to see who's really willing to be so heartless and pathetic in order to truly be a conservative.

    Unreal.
     
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    Sinema Verite: Arizona Dem Gets Taliban Wish

    Longtime antiwar activist Sinema is on record saying that it was okay with her if you wanted to join those trying to kill the sons and daughters of America.
     
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    You know that has nothing to do with going over the poll numbers, viewing the trends. Then using those to make a prediction.
     
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    It most certainly does.
     
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    I don't see how. If the trends and poll numbers showed a wider race, say a 10 point lead which had been building over the last three weeks for Sinema, would you still predict as a forecaster, prognosticator that she would lose only because she said what she said. The last four polls out of Arizona show Sinema with a 3, 4 and 6 point lead along with a tie. Three of these polls are within the margin of error, only the poll which showed Sinema with a 6 point lead was outside the MOE.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/az/arizona_senate_mcsally_vs_sinema-6328.html

    What all of that means, at least to me is Sinema is a very slight favorite, say 51-49. Which is basically a pure toss up. But if I had to predict based only on the numbers, I go with the 51 over the 49. McSally very well could win, this is a coin flip race. But for prediction, I'll go with the numbers. They usually treat me right. Not always, but usually, a very high percentage on the usually. I leave my heart out of the prediction, go with what the hard numbers state.

    For your sake, I'll root for McSally, but predict Sinema base on the numbers.
     
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    It's beyond my comprehension that a slanderer of US troops could beat a combat veteran in AZ.

    Betting odds are 60-43 for McSally

    https://www.predictit.org/markets/d...ill-win-the-US-Senate-race-in-Arizona-in-2018
     
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