Jon Stewart demolish a 2A fanatic

No it isn't. Read the title of your thread and your first comment. This isn't even mentioned.

 

No, you're wrong there. There is a massive difference in Australia and the US. Australia is an Island that doesn't have Cartel essentially sharing a border waiting to ship in mass quantities of guns.

This is a difference that can't be explained away or argued against.

 

How would you answer his question about registration, mental health checks and background checks?

 

One of his biggest points was that we have more guns than people, but gun injuries and deaths ARE NOT GOING DOWN.

 

I like Jon Stewart too but this was no "debate". It was a set up and even I could have done better than the poor, addled 2A advocate cherry picked by the show's producers.

I quit watching Stewart's unchallenged lies when he claimed that there were more gun related homicides (12,520 *) than auto related deaths.(42,915)(1).

There are still more auto related deaths if you compare those figures to all gun related deaths ( about 38,000 +) (2)

However, quibbling about numbers of deaths has nothing to do with fixing the problem of too many homicides.

I disagree that the solution is more guns and have repeatedly argued that the only way to address our homicide and suicide rate is to make America's Mental Health care more affordable and accessible for all Americans

Apparently, Stewart is among the many incremental gun banners who is unable to grasp the seemingly simple fact that criminals don't obey laws including gun control laws. Unfortunately, their solution to existing failed gun laws is more failed gun laws.

If I'm not mistaken, I think that one of the descriptions of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Thanks,





(*) "Number of homicides by firearm in the United States from 2006 to 2021"
https://www.statista.com/statistics/249803/number-of-homicides-by-firearm-in-the-united-states/


(1) "How Many People Die From Car Accidents Each Year?"
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/lega...eople die,12.4 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants.
EXCERPT "In the United States, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) projects there were an estimated 42,915 traffic fatalities in 2021," CONTINUED



(2) "Gun Violence"
https://www.apha.org/topics-and-issues/gun-violence

EXCERPT "Gun violence is a leading cause of premature death in the U.S. Guns kill more than 38,000 people..."CONTINUED

 

Jon Stewart couldn't debate his way out of a paper bag. He's a comedian. Only idiots think of his "jokes" as any sort of reasoning. His new show on AppleTV+ is desperate, sad and has next to no viewers.

 

Most of them are suicides. Those wont be effected by the number of guns there are. The rest wont reduce until after people start carrying their guns for self defense. People are buying more guns, but its mostly just 'panic buying' whenever another politician starts talking about a ban. Guns sitting at home in a cabinet are only useful at defending against a home invasion. And guess what crimes ARE decreasing... https://www.simplyinsurance.com/home-invasion-statistics/

 

Try dealing with the actual content.

 

Bunk. Stewart is not a professional debater. He is a comedian. He’s also a clear, quick thinker.

 

I suspect I can demolish Albert Einstein and his ridiculous “Theory of Relativity” too.

You talk big but asking for others to lay out Stewart’s “best three points” is just your trick for escaping the whole issue without replying while looking “good”. You need to do your own work. Outline those 4 1/2 minutes of Stewart’s argument yourself and let’s see you do your stuff.

 

It's a really dumb argument just from the standpoint of what the Bill of Rights is for.

 

How do guns make a country safe?

 

He is debating and getting paid for it. Quite well in fact. That would be the definition of professional debater.

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You haven’t. What a hypocritical post.

Also look at post 57.

 

Considering Albert is dead, it should be an easy one sided debate. Go ahead and do your one-sided debate with Albert. It might be a fun read.

@Turtledude you can copy and paste my #57 if you wish.

 

Damn near everyone on this board that is pro second amendment would have eaten Stewart alive. Tog6 or would have made him look like the ignoramus he is.

 

Guns don't kill people, people kill people." Well I think the guns help. If you stood there and yelled BANG, I don't think you'd kill too many people.

By the fact guns make suicide more sure and impulsive.

Sorry but the argument being made is that more guns don't lower the crime rate.

 

Dude this isn’t a courtroom. Here, we argue about how things should be. If there’s a reason Australia is categorically different or if the law wasn’t the real factor at play, those are valid concerns. Not just asserting the law.

Actually suicide would be affected by the availability of guns. Suicide is frequently impulsive or ambivalent. The more steps that need to be taken to do it, the less likely an attempt is to occur. The more lethal the attempt, the more likely it is to succeed before the person gets help. Nothing increases the ease and lethality of a suicide attempt more than easy access to a gun.

 

Yet, no pro 2A member of this forum has answered this simple question yet:

How do guns make this country safer ?

... And we are on the 4th page of this thread.

 

gun haters talk about crime with guns when they aren't even motivated by a desire to reduce crime. Suicide is not a valid reason to restrict the rights of millions. I thought liberals were all about "My body my choice"

 

they made me safer when someone tried to mug me

they made me safer when someone tried to force entry into my apartment

 

less guns doesn't lower crime rates and more guns doesn't raise it either

 

Jon Stewart said he was pro-2nd amendment. What did he say?

It’s like asking someone when he stopped beating his wife. You’re making an assumption when asking that question which you didn’t bother asking until the 3rd page.

If someone doesn’t agree with your assumption in the question, then your question is the problem - not everyone else.

 

he's not actually a debater in the strict sense. He's an entertainer.

 

I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the country.

Although the US has by far the highest gun ownership rate, it has one of the highest crime, homicide and suicide rates of the 20 most advanced countries on this planet.

So I ask the question again:

How do guns make this country safer?