http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...uestion_of_late_Arab_immigration_to_Palestine Whether there was significant Arab immigration into Palestine after the beginning of Jewish settlement there in the late 19th century has become a matter of some controversy. According to Martin Gilbert, 50,000 Arabs immigrated to Mandatory Palestine from the neighboring lands between 1919 and 1939 "attracted by the improving agricultural conditions and growing job opportunities, most of them created by the Jews".[29] The overall assessment of several British reports was that the increase in the Arab population was primarily due to natural increase.[30][31] These included the Hope Simpson report (1930),[32] the Passfield White Paper (1930)[33] the Peel Commission report (1937)[34] and the Survey of Palestine (1945).[35] The 1931 census of Palestine considered the question of illegal immigration since the previous census in 1922.[36] It estimated that unrecorded immigration during that period may have amounted to 9,000 Jews and 4,000 Arabs.[36] It also gave the fraction of persons living in Palestine in 1931 who were born outside Palestine: Muslims, 2%; Christians, 20%; Jews, 58% - - - Updated - - - you can't "return" to a place that you ancestors may not have lived in for more than 2,000 years!!!!!!!! logic, reason, and rational thinking gives a certain statute of limitations to such things.
That is a lie. Most palestinian are origin Bedouin from Egyptian tribes and other Arab countries. Many Jews indeed were brutally expelled from their homes ( The Jewish Nakba ) in Arab countries, so they fled, with their pants only, to Israel. They probabaly do not teach that fact in fifth column Arab schools .. do they ?
His Majesty's goverment did not see it coming when Arab countries invaded new born Israel with intensions to wipe them out of the earth..
the jews of 2013 are not the same people as in AD 135. plus the fact that many Jews chose to live outside of Judea even before the Roman conquest. people who choose to leave and live elsewhere, don't have a natural right to return 2,000 years later. sorry buddy.
You are trumpeting unsubstantiated Arab propaganda which is false... This is another LIBEL in the making. Jews are Jews my friend make a search anywhere you want... You want to give them less valor this is your problem and not a Jewish problem... Jews are Jews from time immemorial.
that's all very nice but no Jews today can prove with evidence that they are the direct descendant of a Jew who was kicked out of Palestine by the Romans. plus if your 2,000 year old ancestor chose to move to Rome or Greece or Turkey or Iraq or Crete or Cyprus or Sicily or Babylon from Judea, you have no natural right to return to Judea. your ancestor might, but you don't.
Ask your tribe Elders.. Most palestinian are origin Bedouin from Egyptian tribes and other Arab countries. Many Jews indeed were brutally expelled from their homes ( The Jewish Nakba ) in Arab countries, so they fled, with their pants only, to Israel. They probabaly do not teach that fact in fifth column Arab schools .. do they ?
all Jews are considered to be citizens of Israel???????????? what a baseless and insulting lie. Are you calling all Jews in the Diaspora, dual-citizens?' this is something anti-Semites and Neo-Nazis have been arguing for years, and now you are agreeing with them!!! ubelievable. it is illogical and irrational to believe that someone can "return" to a land that their ancestors haven't lived in for 2,000 years. the people of Brittany in France migrated from Britain thousands of years ago. Should they have the right to automatic immigration and citizenship in Britain? the ancestors of the Russians are from Scandinavia. The Russians should therefore be able to migrate to and become citizens of Sweden??? your logic is nuts.
All they need to is apply for Israeli citizenship when they immigrate and they got it. Indeed. Just as ludicrous to say Palestinians who have never been to what they think was an area they lived can now do so. If Britain has such a policy then yes! If they do not then no. the ancestors of the Russians are from Scandinavia. The Russians should therefore be able to migrate to and become citizens of Sweden??? You irrational and non factual rants are rather silly as well but, you do entertain me somewhat so please, carry on with your unsubstantiated hubris.
Again - Ask your tribe Elders.. and learn the true history which the Palestinian propaganda is trying to cover up !!!!!!!!!!! Most palestinian are origin Bedouin from Egyptian tribes and other Arab countries. Many Jews indeed were brutally expelled from their homes ( The Jewish Nakba ) in Arab countries, so they fled, with their pants only, to Israel. They probabaly do not teach that fact in fifth column Arab schools .. do they ?
I agree that children and grandchildren of refugees don't really have a natural right to return from the country their ancestors fled. Be it Palestinan grandchildren of refugees from Palestine, or Jews who's ancestors may have lived in Judea 2,000 years ago. but the actual refugees do, regardless of how old they are. I have a great idea!!!! All the Jewish refugees from the Arab/Muslim world will get the right to return to THEIR former homes and lands, and the Palestinian refugees will get the same right. sound fair to you?
Certainly however, you don't return refugees to a war zone and, now that Israel exists no Jews wish to return to being second class citizens.
Israel isn't a war zone. Nor is the West Bank. Those Palestinians who wish to live in peace with their neighbors have a right to return to Palestine.
I see. So when the governments of the Palestinians who along with the rest of the Arab League declared war on Israel and the Palestinians have not made a peace treaty instead vowing in their charters to destroy Israel you view this as war over and peace all over the world huh?
"peace all over the world" you're a funny guy. The UN says those Palestinian refugees who are willing to live in peace with their neighbors have the right to return.
Once the war is over Ron. You don`t put refugees in harms way deliberately when there is a war going on.
Ronstar, et al, The UN criteria for the "right of return" does need to be examined and litigated. Until then, I don't think there is a firm answer on that approach. (COMMENT) Having said that, who says the Palestinians Refugees "are willing to live in peace with their neighbors." The Palestinians have said the exact opposite: References: Already it is in conflict with the HAMAS Covenant and the PNA Charter. Article 13 of Covenant: There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Article 14 of Covenant: Since this is the case, liberation of Palestine is then an individual duty for very Moslem wherever he may be. Article 15 of Covenant: The day that enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In face of the Jews' usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised. Article 8 of Charter: On this basis the Palestinian masses, regardless of whether they are residing in the national homeland or in Diaspora (mahajir) constitute- both their organizations and the individuals- one national front working for the retrieval of Palestine and its liberation through armed struggle. Article 9 of Charter: Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. Article 10 of Charter: Commando (Feday'ee) action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war. This requires its escalation, comprehensiveness, and the mobilization of all the Palestinian popular and educational efforts and their organization and involvement in the armed Palestinian revolution. By their own words, they deny themselves the "right of return" if we use your interpretation of UN mandate. Recalling: Article 13 of the Covenant: "Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Most Respectfully, R
Any and all Palestinians who are willing to live in peace with their neighbors, have the right to return to Palestine and Israel. This is according to the UN.
You were just proven wrong by Rocco and persist in parroting your errant position. A sign of one who has been led to the well of factual information but refuses to drink of it.
UN resolution 194 "Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return"
and yet Israel took in millions of refugees from the Arab/Muslim world and post-Holocaust Europe. looks like you made a boo-boo.
War was not declared until 1948 Ron. Looks like you need a calendar. And that date would be when the hostilities are ended with a peace treaty Ron. Not a temporary ceasefire or armistice but a peace treaty.
