Juneteenth… Quite possibly the dumbest holiday in the United States

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  1. MelshieMaze

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    Let me counter with this objective reality and point out that when it comes to most of the people getting arrested for just about anything, whether it's murder or rape or arson or DUIs, chances are they won't be black. They won't be Asian either, the chart proves it. Now if you wanna go scream at the FBI and tell them they're wrong, be my guest.
     
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    That's right! My wife is chinese and I can tell ya culturally and socially Asians integrated far better then black people even though they too were treated as slave labor and lesser then human over here.

    Go figure
     
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    You telling me that isn't helping or proving a point at all, because I'm sure if I look I can find lots of shitty behavior by Chinese people, which makes me wonder what your bullshit excuse would be if I did. I can find equally as many videos with bad behavior by people that are white like you too.
     
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    What do you propose doing about black people existing in this country? You're so bent out of shape about the mere fact of their existence in this country, so what do you do? And I also mean the well educated law abiding blacks too, how do we get rid of them?
     
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    Not really no. Not to the same standard or regularity as black people. No demographic over here commits more crime per representation as blacks do.

    It's just a reality. And it's spawned a **** culture that needs to be course corrected like yesterday
     
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    I have already said what I would do many times in this thread it involves more policing and involves stopping frisk it involves more money poured into the communities it involves better role models. More scholarship money, more investment in poor communities and more communication between black people and the police
     
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    You think other people aren’t doing this already?
     
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    You'll have to excuse me if I don't just take your word for it if you're not willing to post department of Justice statistics
     
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    If I go on Twitter and search for trashy white people the same way you took it upon yourself to search for trashy black people, I can come up with a lot of results.
     
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    Oh you'll just call it "leftist" data. If it doesn't support your argument you'll just dismiss it.
     
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    I posted the FBI if you didn’t notice. That not good enough for yoy, broski?
     
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    Christmas panders to Christians. How about they give up either Easter or Christmas? A compromise. Why should some religious types get even one national holiday, let alone the two they have? They already have special rights. They say "Sky Daddy told me..." and the law says we should cut 'em a lot of slack. Anyway, they too often try to take away other folks' rights.

    How's that for a grievance?
     
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    I like this one. All Starbucks white employees. And while we focus on the absurdity of your claim, you sneak in the Republican Big Lie that Critical Race Theory is taught in schools...
    I guess you figure you can tell the lie over and over again and people will come to believe it.
    Now, we get a full-on assault with your claim "you progressives" reside in an "ignorant bubble." Lots of noise from you, but nothing of substance supporting your claim schools teach CRT.

    There are 100,000+ schools in this country with 4,000,000 teachers. One-off "outrages" you supply doesn't mean schools are promoting CRT.

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    Unless you want to claim high black crime is a genetic problem, you might take a look at conditions in black communities. You can start with inferior schools.
    Tell it to the jury who found Chauvin guilty.
    The jury didn't agree with you.
    Now, we get your ginned up grievances.
    If we only saw the world as you do, we'd be redeemed.
     
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    No I dont. Not to the extent there needs to be. We've been going in the other direction of trying to ignore it and defund the police for more social workers...
     
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    I can guarantee you 100% I can find more videos of mostly black people looting stores compared to mostly white people. Can you even find a video of large throngs of only white people looting a store?

    Tiktok has new ones every few days, of our favorite minority from CA, exercising their “rights” to shop :) hehe. Usually with the headline, no one stealing any pens or penciled or books. Just reporting what I see.
     
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    Why thank you for being a mind reader.... Even though you're not reading mine...
    Just more evidence that some people don't want your opinion but they want to hear your opinion coming from their mouth.....

    Let's post up the department of Justice statistics and let the chips fall where they may.
     
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    What post number was it and who the hell is "yoy broski" ?
     
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    "there is no CRT taught in schools..."

    https://reason.com/2021/07/06/critical-race-theory-nea-taught-in-schools/
    the National Education Association (NEA) - "It is reasonable and appropriate for curriculum to be informed by academic frameworks for understanding and interpreting the impact of the past on current society, including critical race theory," says the item.
    https://www.city-journal.org/article/yes-critical-race-theory-is-being-taught-in-schools
    A study was done of 1,505 18- to 20-year-old Americans—a demographic that has yet to graduate from, or only recently graduated from, high school. And asked whether they had ever been taught in class or heard about from an adult at school each of six concepts—four of which are central to critical race theory. roughly 40 percent had been taught this ****.
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    https://www.realclearinvestigations...bundant_evidence_saying_otherwise_808528.html
    "A July survey by EducationWeek found that barely a year after the murder of George Floyd by a Minnesota cop, 8% of K-12 teachers said they have taught or discussed CRT with students; the figure for teachers in urban schools is much higher: 20%. "
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    "In October, the state’s legislature made ethnic studies – a subject that focuses on the histories and cultures of marginalized identity groups, such as indigenous populations and African Americans – a requirement for high school graduation. Although ethnic studies is not identical to CRT, many academics, teachers and consultants who develop ethnic studies curricula for K-12 schools say that CRT is the software on which ethnic studies runs."

    "Ethnic studies without Critical Race Theory is not ethnic studies,” Manuel Rustin, a high school history teacher who helped oversee the drafting of California’s Ethnic Studies Model Curriculum, told EdSource earlier this year. “It would be like a science class without the scientific method. There is no critical analysis of systems of power and experiences of these marginalized groups without Critical Race Theory.”

    This means that within several years, when the high school graduation mandate goes into effect, California’s 1.7 million secondary school students would be exposed to CRT – and its trademark practices, such as interrogating “whiteness,” systemic racism, colorblindness and meritocracy as tools of power and oppression – on an unprecedented scale."

    Example of CRT taught in Farmington Public School in Michigan.
    https://www.yaf.org/news/michigan-s...ge-asks-them-to-donate-bail-money-to-rioters/
    Checklist of privledge
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w-uiLk3TYNA7iFbRoQkR-zDtsJX7MRzr/view
    Fairfax County had a privilege Bingo game brought to attention by one of the board of supervisors
    https://twitter.com/PatHerrity/status/1483823581868007425?s=20
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    I could flood you with more examples, but knowing your nonsense defense that would try and hand wave this **** off by suggesting "that's not CRT", I've just showed you questionnaires of both Students and teachers admitting to have taught tenant's of CRT in their classrooms. Which is why you just declaring in pure ignorance that "CRT is not being taught in schools" is just ridiculous. It is.

    And it will get banned again rightfully so, after you've successfully gotten Trump back into office.
     
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    It does not. But data shows, the poorer uneducated tend to commit more crimes.
    Why? Probably not clear.

    More idle time?
    An old saying is, idle hands are the work of the devil. Or something similar.
     
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    What percent of them have been forced into a culture of poverty, poor education etc?
    Due to 250+ yrs of slavery, discrimination, segregation, relining, etc?

    The level of cope some have because of skin color 'over this objective reality is incredible.'
     
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    Internet memes and far RW sources of information are not reliable and should not be trusted for unbiased information.

    Most of the RW sources don't even know what CRT is.
     
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    Change the culture. You don't need 250+ years of not being a slave to understand morality and the difference between right and wrong.

    Does it take 250+ years of not being slave to understand that it is immoral to kick someone in the head? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say no. And understanding of morality, right and wrong is fundamentally taught at an early age.
     
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    What the data says (and doesn’t say) about crime in the United States

    In its 2019 survey of crime victims, BJS found wide differences by age and income when it comes to being the victim of a violent crime. Younger people and those with lower incomes were far more likely to report being victimized than older and higher-income people. For example, the victimization rate among those with annual incomes of less than $25,000 was more than twice the rate among those with incomes of $50,000 or more.

    There were no major differences in victimization rates between male and female respondents or between those who identified as White, Black or Hispanic. But the victimization rate among Asian Americans was substantially lower than among other racial and ethnic groups.
    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/11/20/facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/

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    Emphasis added is mine.
    Victims of crimes is stated above.
    Also noted above is poorer people DO COMMIT more crimes.
    Why do people focus on skin color instead of digging deeper for root causes?
     
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    It's only been 15 yrs since the USA apologized for the slavery, Jim Crow laws, legal discrimination, segregation, redlining, etc.

    The eldest of the black population that have been alive since the USA recognized the wrongs it did to blacks were sophomores in high school.
    Just how long do you think it will take to recover from the abject poverty many blacks were force into?
    Since the eldest are still in high school from the point the USA formally recognized it's wrongs.

    IMO, it will take 2-3 generations at a minimum. And that's if the USA puts forth effort to bring up the poverty and poor education that was imposed upon them.
     
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    *poor people in urban communities. Which tend to be black. Poor people in rural communities tend to commit less crime, which tend to be white.
     

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