Just 25 big cities, mostly in China, responsible for producing half of greenhouse gas emissions

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07...ving-urban-greenhouse-gas-emissions/100286826

Sorry but I can hear it now “Why should WE do anything about OUR emissions when it is Chyna’s fault! Thing is you can either lead follow or get out of the way. The world has to pull China to task to start reducing emissions and there are ways it can be done - get some of the fossil fuel cars off the roads for a start. Asia is where EVs should be roaring off the production lines but there is status in owning big cars

 

Lay out how you think that will happen.

The CCP maintains its slave-driving rule over the people of China primarily by assuring them that they will become the dominant power of the world. They don't gaf what anyone else thinks. And its not their cars putting out the bulk of their emissions, its their industry, the cheap and dirty industry they're using to undercut the rest of the world to (to the single credit of the CCP) fulfill their pledge to their people to subjugate the rest of the world to China. China will not care about the environment until they 'win.' There is no 'pull china to task.' They know full well the competitive edge they have in global economics by burning dirty, and unless they're total morons (which they're not) then they have substantial resources invested globally in convincing their competition to further deindustrialize while China races forward in a slave-choking cloud of patriotic mercury and sulfur.

But please, tell us your grand plan to get the CCP on board with shifting their economy from global domination to caring about the environment.

 

Stamp the feet and continue to send them more industries?

 

The US can start by stopping the export of coal to China.

 

But China signed the Paris Accords!!!

 

Half of everything China is producing in its factories is being exported to other countries to be sold to consumers there. So that would be a start.

Countries in the US and Europe and Australia thought they could save the environment by imposing regulations on their factories, but those factories just moved to China instead.
The US and Europe are still the ones paying for these factories to pollute, in a way. Follow the money.

 

20 years ago most Chinese in the cities were riding bicycles. As China became more prosperous, that changed, and now most residents in Chinese cities own cars.

I think China will have to get a lot more prosperous before they can afford electric cars. China is still producing most of its electricity from coal, and it is dirtier coal than the coal burned in countries like the US and Europe.
The Chinese Communist Party is not going to force their people to make more sacrifices. They fear unrest and demands for change. They know the only way to keep the people content with the current political situation is to keep the living standards improving. As long as the economic circumstances are good the people will not care too much about the political circumstances. If the people were forced to go back to bicycles that would be likely to precipitate unrest.

China doesn't have any problem with forcing their society to do things, but it is all about control and ensuring the survival of the Party, that is the priority.

 

That’s a true statement but it can’t be done by producing electric cars. We can’t sustain an electric car owning population any way. We need to reenforce our electrical grid by a very large margin to handle that kind of load. In California there are 725k registered electric vehicles on the the road. That’s 725k out of 14 million registered vehicles. They are actively telling people not to charge their cars at certain times of the day. If that 14 million were all electric no one could charge their cars.

secondly, China produces the chips for those cars and many other parts. Unless we unleash our own building power China can put a stop to that from the start. We currently have no leadership that is willing to take on China on the matter either. Case in point; the Paris climate accord.

until we put an economic hurt on them they will simply continue on.

 

Well, we COULD put economic pressure on them but it would mean swallowing the bitter pill of higher domestic prices

 

Unfortunately America, the biggest global economy and powerhouse has been MIA from the Paris Accords for the last four years

 

Yes and soon after America thumbed it’s nose at those accords and pulled out

 

I wouldn’t call it unfortunate. It’s not an American deal anyway it was a presidential one. It was only entered upon by an executive action because it wasn’t good enough to get our Congress on board. Why would it be when it holds different countries at different levels of accountability.

That’s because the Paris accord thumbed its nose at us more than the top polluter.

 

The US has been consistently reducing it's carbon emissions. How's Australia doing?