I see. I wasn't aware I was dealing with someone who has literacy issues. Should I type slower so you can understand me? And then what? Bribe the dozens of air traffic controllers who saw it? All the members of the verification team? Nope, not a chance. It is legit, as is the radar. You think not, prove it.
you and your ilk simply DO NOT GET IT! you are selling the radar gig, YOU PROVE IT. you have so far failed to give us reasonable evidence much less prove anything. Good luck with that, truthers are wise to that crap.
The radar is valid, I have the raw files. You can download them and check yourself, here; http://911datasets.org/index.php/SFolder:2SDMMXJDK452NT3UPLNATS46F6LGL5CW They are validated by over 100 pieces of evidence on my blog which all support each other to prove AA77 hit the Pentagon. You do not seem to understand radar, how raw data goes from the sites, through atc, and now to us. It has all been verified. You cannot fake stuff like this. To claim otherwise is to show your ignorance on the entire topic. Prove the radar data, from DCA, IAD, and WBI, is false. Go on, let's see some substance to your post instead of words. Prove Venus77 had anything to do with the Pentagon attack. I've provided several radar tracks, and its flight plan data, to show its exact position and time. You seem to think otherwise, so lets have it. Prove it.
No, Koko, YOU don't get it, which is extremely pathetic since you pretend to be a lawyer. The information provided from CJ has gone through the verification method. It is known as fact. YOU are making the claim stating that ALL of that evidence is false. If you were in a court setting, which is something that you pretend to be familiar with, the burden of proof from the "prosecution" (in this example cj) has been met, and then some. He has expert testimony, eye witness testimony, scientific evidence backed up by verification, and visual evidence. In the face of that you have absolutely nothing, and are doing nothing more than merely hand waving it away. Then attempting a reverse burden of proof, which would be impossible because you refuse to accept any evidence at all. We see through your little stunt, kid.
You're still yet to prove the radar is not valid, or explain what you think Venus77 had to do with the Pentagon attack.. considering it didn't take off until over 5 minutes afterwards..
We've done the lawyering bit already Koko. If you don't remember, it ended on you requesting a meeting that worked against you, and then you throwing your own case out.
yeh we did and I learned very quickly that I was dealing with people who had no clue how evidentiary procedure works. No I did not throw out the case, it was the equivalent of trying to teach a 5 year old nuclear physics so I simply said (*)(*)(*)(*) it. Yes as you can see I remember much better than you.
you want me and the world to believe in your radar to prove 77 went in and you have nothing to validate it. anything electronic is easily modified. That said it does not take a rocket scientist to figger out that if you want us to believe your story prove it. awaiting your stack of affidats
The radar is supported by over 100 pieces of evidence on my blog, linked in my signature. The radar is validated by many people from different sites and teams. It coincides with what the aircraft did, what ATC controllers witnessed that day, what pilots witnessed, and what hundreds of people on the ground witnessed. You haven't shown one shred of evidence to show the radar is corrupt. In fact, I linked you to the original source, have you downloaded it and checked for yourself? Where are your groups of witnesses who are saying the evidence I have shown is not what happened? Where are the pilots and air traffic controllers from that day who support you? If this information is compromised, why have none of the dozens of pilots or ATC personnel involved that day come forward?
More radar from 9/11. This time from another no-planer fravorite, United 93. [video=youtube;54z9G3RTUrM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54z9G3RTUrM[/video] This is the encounter with Pittsburgh's Air Traffic Control on September 11, 2001. Radar data is taken from the ASR-9 at KPIT, audio is from PIT 13 Arrival North position, between 1345-1358 UTC. All data and audio can be downloaded from 911datasets.
again anything electronic can be and is often hacked gee golly sergeant cotter even elections but in the case of radar nope that is 100% credible. any wonder why I laugh my ass off when you guys come up with this stuff [video=youtube;7rWuc5kar3Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rWuc5kar3Y[/video]
No, I'm sorry. You don't remember squat Koko, and you're lucky I don't remember which thread that was in so I can link to it. The fact you think you came out victorious is right on par with your normal vision of grandeur.
koko dismisses more evidence which proves him wrong. He is unable to provide a shred of evidence to justify his hand waving. I have validated the Radar evidence, provided the raw data for him to download himself, included audio from air traffic control witnesses who were there, as well as pilots in the air who were involved. None of the people who were involved that day have come forward against the radar data or atc audio, in fact, several have come out in support of it, their interviews in various documentaries and c-span clips detail and support what I have shown here. Furthermore, regarding UA93's encounter with KPIT above, I have talked to Mal, the tower watch supervisor, who too remembers it happening; (from our personal emails) He confirms the radar data, he confirms he saw it, just like the other dozens of ATC personnel and pilots who are on record and recorded in the audio as spotting the 4 hijacked targets on radar and/or with their eyes. This is validation. Now it is your turn koko. Present evidence to show the radar data is wrong/corrupt, or show you actually have an ability to weigh up evidence, man up, and admit you've been proven wrong.
all you need to do is prove that it is in fact evidence and you failed and continue to fail. sorry not my problem yours
Somebody mentioned that you were some sort of legal professional. This is now in question, if you have not grasped that you, having made the most-widely-scoffed-at assertion, bear the burden of proof.
Perhaps you missed this. I have proven what you ask. Time and time again I have provided more and more evidence, this entire thread and more, and every time you hand wave it away and claim I have not proven its legitimacy. It is your problem, because I have proven what you ask. It is now up to you to disprove it.
I told you to start your own thread, I never said I was going to bother participating in it. I posted this. The issue as far as I am concerned is therefore done. I am not going to hang around reading rehashed walls of text and giant inflated writing which you copy and paste from long debunked conspiracy sources. I have no need, or want. Now, you are off topic, again. Skulk back to your own thread and sit there congratulating yourself on your gish gallops, and I'll sit here with actual evidence and show how totally ignorant koko is of facts.
But this is in fact what you do all the time. People need to just see your post history to verify this. You guys got destroyed in that thread, and I am going to bump it forever!!
haha, I'm glad you think so. Bump it all you like, doesn't change the fact my link debunks the entire thing. You only have to see my post history to see I have an abundance of information at my disposal, far more than all of you truthers combined. Thats why I am able to piece together things such as Radar, ATC data and statements of witnesses, flight plan data, raw radar readouts, and more. You truthers have nothing in comparison. Sad, really.
(*)(*)(*)(*) I wish I could waltz into court with the (*)(*)(*)(*) you put up as evidence and make it stick! I would have more money than the rothchilds! woohoo!
