Just what is "Antifa" and can they be called the new alt-left?

Just what is "Antifa" and can they be called the new alt-left?

Critics say the militant left is just as dangerous as the far right.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40930831

[I have no use for any group that engages in violence. Until recently I had never heard of this organization of left wing activists. From what I have read they seem, like the alt-right, to have no problem smashing heads to make their points. I for one do not think the left should ever engage in such activities. What do you think?]

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They are leftwing fascists

 

"Antifa" is the current moniker of the violent left, using "fascism" as the current excuse for same.
By their own words, they do not know what fascism is, and they do not understand that their actions directly parallel those of the people they purport to oppose.

Example:
http://rosecityantifa.org/

 

I agree

The lefty street thugs are fascists themselves

 

Antifa: America’s New Brown Shirts

A few days before the January 20, 2017 inauguration of President Donald J. Trump, James O’Keefe’s investigative journalism organization, Project Veritas, released undercover video footage exposing a group of hard-left, self-described “anarchists,” “anti-capitalists,” and “anti-fascists” who – in an effort to undermine Trump’s election and strike back at the “Nazis” they said had sent him to the White House – were plotting to disrupt the inaugural festivities with a massive protest dubbed “DisruptJ20.” The conspirators planned to create a series of “clusterf**k blockades” throughout the capital; shut down the Washington, DC Metro lines by chaining the trains to other physical structures; inject nauseating butyric acid into the vent shafts of the National Press Club; and physically assault Trump backers with well-placed, debilitating punches to the throat.

Only some of these actions materialized on inauguration day, but Washington was a scene of chaos, as well organized rioters dressed entirely in black, their faces covered with black masks and scarves, staged a host of violent and destructive actions. As one of them subsequently told The Washington Post, the violence “was purposeful in its symbolism” – meaning, for instance, that “vandalism at a Starbucks shop and a Bank of America branch were executed as attacks on capitalism and corporate greed.” By the time the disturbances were over, some 231 people had been arrested.

Approximately two weeks later, on February 1, 2017, these figures in black disturbed the peace again, violently shutting down a scheduled talk at UC Berkeley by gay conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, who was slated to call for an end to the “sanctuary campus” policies that have long shielded illegalalien students at universities from federal immigration authorities. Several hundred of the radical protesters, swimming in a sea of more conventional demonstrators, turned the Berkeley campus into a war zone. Hurling rocks and Molotov cocktails, they shattered the windows of the student union center where Yiannopoulos had been expected to speak; they did $100,000 worth of damage to a construction site where a new student dormitory was being built; and they violently attacked bystanders, three of whom had to be hospitalized.

Then, on April 15, 2017, violent riots broke out once more during a pro-free-speech rally held by Trump supporters in Berkeley. Waving the red flag of communism and the black flag of anarchy and carrying a variety of weapons ranging from brass knuckles to stun guns and knives, the masked rioters, calling themselves the “Black Bloc” for the black hoodies and masks they wore, waded into the crowd. Police made 21 arrests. Eleven people were sent to the hospital.

Welcome to “Antifa” (the name is a shortened version of “anti-fascist”), the hard left shock troops fomenting a new civil war in America. It is the political version of a flash mob, with no centralized leadership or structure, but with a clear ideology. The website of a New York-based Antifa chapter, one of several that have recently sprung up across the country, states: “Antifa combines radical left-wing and anarchist politics, revulsion at racists,

sexists, homophobes, anti-Semites, and Islamophobes, with the international anti-fascist culture of taking the streets and physically confronting white supremacy.” Antifa has been present in chaotic demonstrations from Minneapolis to New Orleans, a violent vanguard hunting down conservative “fascists”. While they dress in black, members of Antifa, with their masks and their taste for violent intimidation, resemble nothing so much as the Brown Shirts who paved the way for Hitler in Germany. Seeking to transform protest to street fighting, members of Antifa may hide their identity, but they are, say those who have closely watched the rapid rise of the group, the new and frightening face of radical leftism in America...

Continue. you are 75% away from the end -> http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/Antifa.pdf

 

Funding of Antifa:

Because Antifa is a decentralized movement consisting of so many loosely affiliated groups as well as individuals acting on a freelance basis, it is difficult to trace its funding sources with any degree of specificity. Some publications have suggested that a financial connection exists between Antifa and the multi-billionaire leftist George Soros. But whatever money the movement may receive from high-profile financiers (like Soros) or charitable foundations, ultimately makes its way to Antifa by way of a very circuitous path. This is because few philanthropies or big-name funders want to risk tarnishing their own reputations by openly supporting hordes of violent radicals. As Jason Kessler writes in GotNews.com: “It’s instructive to show how money from globalist billionaires like George Soros and Tom Steyer trickle down to the Antifa foot soldiers in many major demonstrations. Soros and Steyer donate to Media Matters, a left-wing group that operated Hillary Clinton’s notorious online propaganda arm Correct the Record. Media Matters in turn funds groups like ANSWER.... This is typical of the way [the] top-down, billionaire-funder-to-terrorist-foot-soldier hierarchy works, with several degrees of separation and plausible deniability.”

Meanwhile, Lee Stranahan, writing in Breitbart.com, observes that the angry passions of Antifa activists generally require no extrinsic motivation from outside funding sources: “While it’s been proven that funders like Soros and the Democratic Party have paid protest organizers and some protesters, groups like the violent Black Bloc typically aren’t motivated by money, but instead come to protests because of their anti-American ideology, base criminal desires and thrill seeking.”

One organization that can be definitively identified as a funder of the Antifa movement is the Alliance For Global Justice (AGJ), which serves as the fiscal sponsor of Refuse Fascism, a constituent organization of the movement. AGJ, in turn, has received some funding from George Soros's Open Society Foundations.


Conclusion

The Antifa movement and its foot soldiers can rightfully be categorized as a special-operations unit of the modern Communist Left. The movement's professed mission is to beat back the forces of “fascism,” which it falsely and slanderously equates with conservatism. By drawing that equivalence, Antifa hopes to persuade many Americans to reject their allegedly racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic culture, and to instead embrace Marxism as the only doctrine that is ultimately capable of creating a more perfect society.

Antifa's propensity for using violence as a means of silencing its enemies is particularly significant. Utterly rejecting any notion of a free and open exchange of ideas, the movement views anyone who holds a contrary political perspective as The Enemy that must be crushed by any means necessary. This obvious reality corroborates what Jonah Goldberg points out in Liberal Fascism: the very close relationship that exists between fascism and communism: “[F]ascism, properly understood, is not a phenomenon of the right at all. Instead, it is, and always has been, a phenomenon of the left. This fact … is obscured in our time by the equally mistaken belief that fascism and communism are opposites. In reality, they are closely related, historical competitors for the same constituents, seeking to dominate and control the same social space. … n terms of their theory and practice, the differences are minimal.”[4]

Thus, in the final analysis, it can accurately be said that the Antifa communists who so passionately denounce fascism, are in fact fascists themselves.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=7921

 

Looks like Antifa is something the left doesn't want to talk about, and yes they are alt left. Made up from a lot of illiberals. They are against any speech they don't like and will shut down speech they don't like.

 

Communist Left? Special Ops branch? This is getting comical. Starting to sound like SDS in 1963 or something, LOL

 

"Antifa made me drive my car over a white woman."

Fear not, terrorist nazis, Addled Trumpler is massaging a new law out of his assembled circle of drooling satanic racist dickmunches to ensure the nazi terrorists can drive over white women without pause or concern.

MAGA.

 

Considering Pocahantas says that Liberals are in control of the Democrat Party, & most antifays are liberal, I guess you could just call them Democrats.

 

Yet another member who refuses to admit Antifa is violent or even denounce their violence but wants to complain about a white group getting violent after Antifa incited violence with said group at a peaceful rally. The logic of this member is disturbing.

How many free passes will people keep giving Antifa before they realize just how radical this group has become?

 

Antifa began in Germany 70-80 years ago and it's always been the preserve of the radically minded to confront things like nazism and fascism with direct, physical action.

Expect more.

You must be a fake Christian, lying so casually about me like that. Do you practice salacious gossip, too? That's another habit of fake Christians.

 

I have yet to see you denounce Antifa. They have started violence on numerous occasions. As a christian I can't support violence no matter what group is doing it. Do you denounce Antifa or do you support them?

 

I support anyone who reveals fake Christianity to itself.

 

So, that would be "No" then?

 

That's what I thought. When asked if you supported Antifa you could not give me an honest answer and try to deflect with your theory that I am a fake christian. So you condemn one violent group while supporting another one. So you support violence. Ok. Got it.

 

It's so easy for most of these people complaining to denounce the KKK but if you ask them to denounce Antifa they get all stupid and don't know what to say. After several posts they still can't give you a simple "yes" or "no" answer. Antifa is violent and should also be denounced.

 

^^^^^^^

 

Who on the left/Anti Trumpets will denounce Antifa and say they do not like the actions and violence of this group? Anyone want to do it?

Do you guys support or dislike Antifa? If you support them then what is your reasoning for supporting a violent group while denouncing another such as the KKK? Both groups are radical, violent and dress up. If you are against ALL violence than why can't you left/Anti Trumpets denounce Antifa?

Don't forget Antifa and the KKK both were violent at that rally. You can't condemn one while ignoring or giving a free pass to the other.

 

Would make a great thread.......

 

I know and I want to start one like that but I am to tired tonight and my wife does not work tomorrow so I may not be on here. I will start one this weekend if nobody has before then. Maybe you could start a thread on this?

 

If you don't mind my using your post.

I really couldn't add anything better.

Don't know if Opinions & beliefs allows for thread creation from other's posts... I seem to remember being ok to do so on the other format we had.

If you're cool, I'll start it in a bit, LOL, we'll both likely have to catch up to it tomorrow tho.... Me sleepy !

 

Everyone has his own black sheep, which he prefers to hide, eh?
Or how do the right-wingers react immediately to these Nazis and clansmen etc. on their political wing?

 

Most conservatives openly, & loudly I might add, denounce them.

Every thread here even, is evidence of that.