Kadyrov´s Chechnya, part of Russia?genders segregated, alcohol prohibited,biggest mos

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    Kodyrov´s Chechnya, is still part of Russia?genders segregated, alcohol prohibited, biggest mosque inn Europe,Islamic dress code, etc .comments ?

    "While rebuilding Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov is promoting what he calls "traditional Islam": it is making Chechnya feel less and less part of Russia.

    Alcohol is no longer freely available in the shops; there are segregated sports facilities for men and women; at the computer store, you can buy an iPad and pick up a free copy of the Koran; painted on the ceiling of my Grozny hotel room is an arrow pointing towards Mecca.Under Mr Kadyrov, there is also a stricter Islamic dress code. I meet one woman who tells me that she had been threatened for not wearing a headscarf in public.

    She is deeply concerned by the policy of Islamisation. Fearing reprisals, the woman asks to remain anonymous.

    "My niece said that a man came to her nursery school," she recalls.

    "He told all the children to ask their parents whether or not they prayed, then report back to him. He said that if they didn't pray, the parents and children would go to hell.

    "Clerics are going into schools and telling six-year-old boys to control their sisters, and that if their sisters don't wear headscarves, the boys will be held responsible and punished by God...."No matter how unfair the wildfire of injustice, you, Chechnya, kept falling and rising again," they sing.

    Chechnya is rising again. But where is it heading? It certainly feels as if it is drifting further and further from Moscow. " bbc
     
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    de jure –yes, de facto –no ;) I told that Chechnya and some other Caucasian republics are a f-ing huge black hole for money and the good trough for federal and regional “elite ”. You can start by comparing Grozny with analogous town in the Central Russia. I wonder where the war was?
    As to kadyrov, he opportunely changed his crowd > http://www.livekuban.ru/files/u4689/1pycuignca.png
    saved his own as$ and now he’s doing well >
    [video=youtube;crWQKKz9hZw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crWQKKz9hZw[/video]
     
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    so Chechens have not just won the second Chechen war, they forced you to pay them yearly reparations (90% of Chechen budget comprise of Moscow´s reparations) , of ´cos Putin is saying over and over again - we(you) won ...and you believe him ! whats a story!
     
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    It’s much more complicated than that. And I don’t believe the war will ever end there.
    This area is a lumber for Russia, you know like Lithuania and some other failed and petty states are a lumber for EU ;)
     
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    sooner its RF is a "lumber" for Chechenia , you can keep BS`ing here and pay them millions $ for tribute . Kadyrovs like it [​IMG][​IMG] mentally he is a 12 years old Lithuanian boy from a small village [​IMG]
     
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    Absolutely correct, esteemed Litwin. Though this is good for kadyrov , when he can milk a big country like RF;)
    Our Caucasian politics sucks. You see we screwed some bandits there, but others got seats in govt bodies, profitable business and other good things of life. And it is a f-ing shame.
    http://i023.radikal.ru/1202/04/1208c33cbec3.jpg
     
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    [​IMG] [​IMG] just do it right, problem here that Putin lies to people . he says that cancer has been cured but it dont, its just got worse
     
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    That is no news . Putin and entourage lie to ppl every chance they get. And they have taken advantage of the situation in the Caucasus.
    Yes, it’s an acute problem. I suppose this man says the right things and he voiced how to solve this problem –see the first 1 and half mins of this video. IMHO this is not a bad alternative.
    [video=youtube;oMv55UtybaU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMv55UtybaU[/video]
     

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