Kadyrov cursed Stalin/ 45% Muscovites believe Stalin´s actions were justified

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  1. vis

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    Litwin, why do not you create a thread where you expose Hitler as a monster? Always Stalin... This makes people think that you favor Hitler. Or even maybe like him. He?
     
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    kadyrov cursed this wardog, demon, while drinking poison in the same fountain...
     
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    You do not understand because you have a lack of education and, consequently, low intelligence. Otherwise, you might realize that there is nothing strange. For example Wagner pathologically hated the Jews, but that he did not become a bad composer. Another example - the great German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche, called his teacher Dostoevsky. But Hitler admired Nietzsche. So what? From this Nietzsche become less intelligent? Of course not.
    One more example. Dr. Goebbels obazhaet Dostoevsky's work (even his wife and mother in his birthday in 1944, presented the book Dostoevsky's "The Possessed". And Goebbels was very happy. He wrote about this in his diary).
    But Dostoevsky admired the Russian people. He was a Russophile. Goebbels fought against Russia.
    Talented people may have different perspectives on the problem, but they remain talented people. It is difficult for you to understand?
     
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    You can prove it? Or you repeat the propaganda of the Western media?
     
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    its the well known thesis , introduced by SMERSH&HKVD in western academical world in 1945 , so everyone who wrote about Kobas war crimes where derectlly attacked by useful idiots - academics. and it was so up to 1986, then your know everyone got to know that koba was the worst and broodiest dictator ever ... so today your outdated SMERSH&HKVD thesis simply doesn´t work in the normal part of the world
     
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    Look LIKE you don't respect Chechnya, but its not for long, soon you will show all respect to your new rulers
    [video=youtube;PIYrDnIjoO0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIYrDnIjoO0[/video]
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    Mongols juchi never will be there ...
     
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    Why do you show me how Chechen to beat Lithuanian? Video on how Africans raping Swedes, or video about how Africans humiliation the Germans, for example in Cologne. These videos do not interest me ...... Maybe you have a sense of inferiority, and so you will enjoy scenes of violence and humiliation? Psychiatry believes that this mental illness.
    Psychiatrists say that the love of violence and humiliation - a consequence of the problems of childhood. For example Ukrainian maniac and murderer Chikatilo was raped as a child. And he got traumatized. So he began to kill and rape the weak. (Women and children) and he was very fond of scenes of violence and humiliation.
    When you have a passion for such scenes? also have been problems in your childhood?
     
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    Half of Russians still remain positive about the killer Stalin....incredible, yes, but true.

    "Among the supporters of Stalin, the leader of Russia’s Communist Party, Gennady Zyuganov, is one of the most vocal. He argues that many of the major achievements of the Soviet people under Stalin should be attributed to his effective guidance."

    http://rbth.com/society/2013/03/04/half_of_russians_remain_positive_about_stalin_23503.html

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    “Four million arrested on political charges, some 800,000 executed by shooting, another several million collateral casualties, some 2 million peasants sent to the Gulag, several million Chechen, Ingush and Crimean Tatar people relocated from their homelands…"
     
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    Only a complete fool would deny Stalin's crimes against humanity.

    FYI, all the proof that you question is in your own country's archives. If you spent less time spamming this forum with anti-American propaganda you would already know this.
     
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    Totally false, fake Left-wing propaganda.....the truth is that its nearly half of all Russians who hold Stalin in a positive light!
     
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    Disgusting...:puke:

    And his fanboys will tell you they're "moral" people...

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    You can't reason with the Russian apologists and message board plants.....they are there to spread disinformation and the usual "Russia is good, USA is bad" propaganda. They have no purpose except to lie and to cast doubt. The Communist Stalin was responsible for the murder of more people than Hitler...and Communist Chairman Mao was responsible for an even greater number of murders of his countrymen.
     
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    You can prove it? Or you repeat the Western propaganda for the sheep?

    Question for you - do you know about labor camps in the United States? Do you know how many Americans have died from starvation in the 1930s? At the time when the food in the United States specifically destroyed. This is your story. You should know this.

    By the way, why the Western media do not talk about the bloody tyrant, who destroyed half of its people? About the worst figure of the XX century - a man whose ruthlessness are legendary. Man has destroyed half of the people of their own country, which after his death became a foreign colony. Greedy and bloody criminal, who lived to a ripe old age, and departed into the grave unpunished. Man, whose anniversary of coming to power recently with great pomp celebrated inhabitants of the country, claiming the status of a European power?
    As all have guessed, we are talking about Leopold II, the Belgian king and ruler "Congo Free State".

    The Western media are silent about this. But you can improve your education and reading - Mark Twain. King Leopold's monologue. https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/i2l/kls.html I will recommend. It's worth it.

    Roosevelt about Stalin in 1943. "This man knows how to act. It goal is always before his eyes. Work with it - a pleasure. No beating about the bush. He has thick low voice, he speaks slowly, seems very confident, unhurried - in general, makes a strong impression" - cites the opinion of him son Elliott Roosevelt in the book "His eyes."

    Later, in a speech December 24, 1943, described in the book "fireside chats," Roosevelt said: "Simply put, I got along well with Marshal Stalin The man combines the great, indomitable will and a healthy sense of humor, I guess. , heart and soul of Russia have him as their true representative. I believe that we will continue to get along very well with him and with all the Russian people. "
     
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    Believe me, I'm well familiar with Russian internet trolls, El Kabosh. I used to troll them at places like Pravda Forums, which were teeming with that xenophobic riff-raff. In fact, after that refuge for Stalinists, fascists, xenophobes and anti-Semites got flushed down the toilet, some of them washed up here.

    If you know how to handle them, and I do, there actually quite fun to toy with. After all, they're not very bright. :)

    I know all about it - I grew up during the Cold War and the members of my family served in the armed forces from the Korean War to West Germany when the Berlin Wall finally came tumbling down.

    I haven't read The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression in its entirety, but I've read some excerpts, and Paul Bogdanor maintains an excellent website detailing the crimes against humanity committed by Lenin, Stalin, Mao, the Kims, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot, Mengistu, Castro, et al:

    Left-Wing Bloodbaths
    http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left.html

    It's enough to make you want to slap a Bernie Sanders supporter upside the head...
     
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    whats funny is here, that Zyuganov is a Kadyrov´s ally and friend , how it works in Mongols juchi heads only God knows ...
     
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    About the "bloody" Stalin, too, you have no proof. Is not it?
     
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    [video=youtube;yYRJoc5ttxA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYRJoc5ttxA[/video]
     
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    Isn't Kadyrov one of Vlad the Invader's vassals?

    If so, that is how Muscovites can love Stalin and Kadyrov at the same time. It would seem that any self-respecting Chechen would seek independence from Moscow, but Kadyrov isn't seeking that, is he?
     
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    What part of Post #34 do you fail to understand?

    Try picking up a history book sometime or read the Soviet archives. Your admiration of Joseph Stalin is contemptible...
     
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    I read the archives. Also, I read A memo for Khrushchev from R.Rudenko Attorney General, Minister of Internal Affairs S. Kruglov, Minister of Justice K.Gorshenin.

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    "February 1, 1954
    Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, Comrade Khrushchev, NS
    In connection with receipt signals in of the CPSU from a number of persons of illegal condemnation of counterrevolutionary crimes in the past years by the Board of the OGPU, triples NKVD special meeting, the Military Collegium, courts and military tribunals and in accordance with your instructions on the need to reconsider the case for persons convicted for counter-revolutionary crimes and is now contained in the camps and prisons, we report: for the time from 1921 to the present time 3,777,380 persons were convicted for counter-revolutionary crimes, including capital punishment - 642,980 people to the content for a period in the camps and prisons 25 years old and under - 2,369,220, to link and expulsion - 765,180 people.
    Of the total number of convicts, tentatively convicted: 2.900.000 people - College of the OGPU, NKVD, triples and Special Meeting and 877,000 people - courts, military courts, and the Military Collegium Spetskollegiey."

    We can compare. THE USSR. The most "terrible" 1937. The number of inmates - 1,196,369 people. (Thieves, murderers, terrorists, scammers, etc. Total) Note - this is not a Russia, but the whole of the USSR (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, etc. Total 15 of this republic.)

    USA. 21 century. Our days. The number of prisoners more than 2.2 million people. Officially allowed torture. People detained in prison without trial (Guantanamo, for example). NSA totally watching their population and so on.

    But you're talking about "the bloody Stalin". This is very funny.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

    Time to invade another country! Activate the Web Brigades! :roflol::roflol::clapping:
     
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    Good for you. There's no shortage of material documenting the millions of deaths Joseph Stalin was responsible for:

    Major Soviet Paper Says 20 Million Died As Victims of Stalin
    By BILL KELLER, Special to the New York Times
    Published: February 4, 1989

    The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.
    -- Joseph Stalin

    Death is the solution to all problems. No man - no problem.
    -- Joseph Stalin
     
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    Really funny is that you continue to assert that there is no freedom of speech in Russia.
     
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    I'll show an archival document. You say incomprehensible nonsense as an argument. It is your lack of education? Or is it a strange sense of humor?

    To increase your intelligence. Exposing the lies.

    "Death is the solution to all problems. No man - no problem." This myth is used to point to Stalin's cruelty and disregard for human life.
    In fact Stalin did not say such. This statement came up writer Rybakov and attributed it to Stalin in his adventure novel "Children of the Arbat".

    "The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic."
    In fact Stalin did not utter such words. This phrase is slightly paraphrased quote from the novel by Remarque's "Black Obelisk": "But apparently, always so: the death of one person - it is death, but the death of two million - only statistics"

    Also, I'll tell you about another phrase that weak-minded and ignorant people attributed to Stalin.
    ""No important how the vote, important how to count up". Stalin did not utter such words.
    The author of this phrase Napoleon III. He said it after a referendum in France. Tov. Stalin simply just they paraphrased: "In bourgeois countries is important not as a vote, and important how to count."

    Do not read the Western media. This is bad for the brain.
     
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    I didn't get those quotes from the Western media, and the least credible information sources on the planet are Russian internet trolls who admire Joseph Stalin and deny that he was a mass murderer.
     
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