Katie Hobbs extends lead while Republican tells Arizona to ‘get ready’ for her win

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  1. Izzy

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    Watch out Kari, the last batshit broad Lindell sugared up didn't fare so well.
    Tina Peters...lol


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    Mike Lindell confirmed he is funding Kari Lake’s election results challenge in Arizona and has spent $40M so far challenging the 2020 election results.
     
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    BOMBSHELL - Kari Lake didn't lose across the board...... yet

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    But Thompson allowed a trial to move forward on two other counts that he said, if proven, could state a claim under the statute governing election challenges: alleged intentional interference by election officials affecting Maricopa County ballot printers and chain of custody violations.

    “Plaintiff must show at trial that the [Election Day] printer malfunctions were intentional, and directed to affect the results of the election, and that such actions did actually affect the outcome,” the judge said of the first remaining count in Monday’s order.

    For the other remaining count, Lake claims that more than 300,000 Maricopa County ballots did not have proper chain of custody paperwork.

    The county disputes that claim, arguing that Lake does not understand the various forms of paperwork and indicating Maricopa has all necessary documentation on file.
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizona-judge-dismisses-most-kari-034022318.html

    Seems reasonable... Likely zero chance she'll be able to prove either count, but it's so rare to see a MAGA not get completely demolished in court that this warrants special attention.
     
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    Lake's side will get 50 random ballots from each district to examine, if I understood that correctly?
    Check if they're cured?
    She already told her voters to do that and I've yet to see anyone of them claim their ballot wasn't cured.
    I assume the county has watchers watching Lake's people?
     
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    I was confused on that story (from Daily Caller) and don't think it was part of this decision yesterday....

    Letting her examine random ballots is pretty meaningless, IMHO.... Getting a 1 or 2 day "trial" on 2 claims is not...
     
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    Using the term "trial" too is confusing, makes one think of a jury etc?

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    "Maricopa County Superior Court judge Peter Thompson dismissed 8 out of the 10 claims filed by Lake’s attorneys, two allegations are now headed to a trial. One approved claim alleges that a Maricopa County election employee tilted the race by tampering with ballot printers, causing “identifiable” votes to go missing.

    The other alleges that Maricopa County, the most populous county in Arizona, violated its stated election procedures regarding the chain of custody for mail-in ballots—an issue, she claims, that led to illegal ballots being tallied. Thompson has given Lake approval to provide evidence backing this latter claim, which the judge described as a dispute of fact, not law.

    “Evidence is not before the Court at the motion to dismiss stage—pleadings, made under the auspices of Rule 11 (the rule governing sanctions) are,” the judge explained, according to the Arizona Republic. “Accordingly, Plaintiff must show at trial that the BOD printer malfunctions were intentional, and directed to affect the results of the election, and that such actions did actually affect the outcome.”


    Given the stipulations outlined by Thompson, attorney Marc Elias, whose team is representing Hobbs, is confident that the suit will go nowhere. “Proving intentional wrongdoing and that it affected the outcome of the election will be impossible for Lake,” Elias tweeted Monday."
     
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    Looks like a "trial" before the judge.
    Thompson was appointed by Republican Gov. Jan Brewer.
    No Obama appointed judge to blame, eh?

    Lake obviously has the Maricopa employee and video of them tampering with the voting machines, confessed to the crime and will appear before the judge. LOL

    9am today.

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    Lake claimed "that voting by mail is unconstitutional and that the 2022 election was invalidly certified in Maricopa County.

    Thompson allowed a portion of Lake’s claim to move forward in which she alleged that a Maricopa County employee interfered with ballot-on-demand printers, leading to Lake losing votes on Election Day.
    He also allowed claims that the county didn’t follow proper chain-of-custody procedures in handling early ballots cast on Election Day, allowing employees of its contractor, Runbeck, to add their families’ ballots at their facility instead of at a voting center or designated ballot drop box.

    To prove the printer-related claims at trial, Thompson wrote, Lake must show that the person who allegedly tampered with the printer is covered under election law, that “the printer malfunctions caused by this individual directly resulted in identifiable lost votes” for Lake and that those lost votes would impact the outcome of the election.

    Thompson dismissed the portions of this count that alleged fraud, as well as the portion that said the ballot-on-demand printers must be certified, which Thompson said was not the case under Arizona election law. Ballot tabulators must be certified, not printers, he wrote.

    During a Monday hearing, attorney for Lake, Kurt Olsen of Washington D.C., argued that “one of the most critical features” of Lake’s suit was the “mysterious appearance” of 25,000 new ballots in Maricopa County between Nov. 9 and Nov. 10, saying that this was allowed to happen because of the county’s failure to maintain proper chain-of-custody for the ballots.

    Olsen’s claim is based on the county’s announcement on election night that it had received around 275,000 early ballot drop-offs that day, and its update of that number to 298,000 on Nov. 10.

    Thomas Liddy, of the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office, denied those claims during the Monday hearing..

    Because everyone wants to know what the turnout was like after the election, the county initially publicly released an estimate that 275,000 early ballots were dropped off on Election Day, but then updated that number to 298,000 once the ballots had actually been counted, Liddy said.

    “That’s not all-the-sudden the creation of ghost ballots,” Liddy said. "

    While Liddy previously argued that Lake and her lawyers only believed there were chain of custody violations because they misunderstood the county’s forms for documenting it, Thompson said that would be determined during the trial.
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    https://www.azmirror.com/2022/12/20...o-trial-judge-dismisses-seven-of-nine-counts/
     
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    Like Trump, Keri Lake is whistling by the political graveyard. The courts do not get involved in overturning election results.

    Do I think some crap went on during Election Day? Absolutely. Hobbs should have recused herself from the election process. But hey, when you are a Democrat, you can get away with anything. If Hobbs had been a Republican Secretary of State, the press would have pressed her to recuse herself until she did it. A Democrat is free to “cook the books.”

    Unfortunately the Arizona voters have shown themselves to be incompetent. The election should not have been close enough for the Democrats to steal it. When you have major problems at the border, why do you vote in Democrats who support open borders? Forget what Democrats say to get elected. When they go to Washington, they will be supporting Biden’s open borders with gusto. Arizona has done a 180 from days it was “Goldwater country.”
     
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    Why should Hobb's have recused herself?
    Because Lake said before the elation that she wouldn't be conceding? lol

    The Hobb's win shows just how disgusted Arizonians Republicans are with arrogant, desperate Trumpian loons like Kari Lake.
     
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    Hobbs was responsible for running the election in which she was a candidate. Can you see a possible conflict of interest?

    The two issues that courts have allowed to be litigated concerned printer problems on Election Day and the custody of the ballots. These are both issue can concern the operations Hobbs had responsibility for administrating.
     
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    No "crap" went on during Election Day. There was an unfortunate accidental incident, which should be investigated to prevent it happening again, and Maricopa officials said nobody was denied the right to vote.

    Bold #1 - Then you are indicating Brian Kemp should have recused in 2018, to maintain that rock solid consistency? I personally would have no issue with SOS recusing themselves when running for higher office in the state, but I'm not sure I see the point either.

    The answer to Bold #2: you vote in sane Democrats vs MAGA

    Also, Katie Hobbs will not be going to Washington (as an official part of her job) .... you might want to check what office she just won...

    Is it really so hard for you to believe that Arizonans would vote in somebody who has previously worked hard for her state vs somebody who probably couldn't identify Arizona on a map??
     
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    You mean like Brian Kemp did in 2018 when he ran for governor while he was still Secretary of State ? Hmmmmm, yes, I can see a potential conflict of interest there, but hey, if he did it then it must be Ok, right ?
     
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    There was no conflict of interest for Hobbs.

    Quite a few incumbent Republican Secretary of States ran for reelection and won and there was no blow back that they should have recused themselves.

    Hobbs had/has nothing to do with Lake's claims that an employee of Maricopa Country deliberately altered or something to that effect voting machines, or her other deluded claim that the mail-in votes are invalid due to the (non?) chain of custody.

    Hobbs was right not debating Lake, you can't debate with a batshit conspiracy loon.;
     
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    No, he should have recused himself.
     
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    Since you Democrats support open borders, I’m sure that you are okay with your candidates continuing to keep them open no matter the cost, rise in crime or lower standards of living for middle class taxpayers. Five Million illegals have crossed the border since Biden to an oath to defend the constitution. He lied.
     
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    Why?

    You understand that in many states (including Arizona) the SOS is an ELECTED position. So please explain how this elected official is supposed to recuse themselves from every election since they are on the ballot ?

    Odd that I didn't hear any of you screaming about the SOS in other states where repubs won ?
     
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    Excellent non-response.... But I understand your retreat to the ONLY current issue where you might have a valid complaint, even if MAGA wouldn't fare any better under the circumstances...
     
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    Back at 3pm
    Lake's expert voting tec guy speaks at Lindel's loony gatherings.
    Lindell has been paying for all his travel.;lodgings and now to testify plus 250.00 an hr which is pretty cheap..;lol
    Lindell is also paying for Lake's lawsuits and lawyers etc.
    Interesting seeing him get all flustered when cross examined.
     
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    The plan was simple:
    1. Use wrong-sized ballots to get rejected by machines & cause huge lines that force thousands to stay home
    2. Don’t count ballots at voting center (against AZ law) and ship them to central counting where they’d be “organized”
    3. Hope judge dismisses case

    - R.Handley
     
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    "One week ago, the Defendants in Kari Lake V. Katie Hobbs squirm when we asked to inspect ballots (video below) Now we know why… they intentionally used the wrong sized ballots to sabotage Election Day This is bigger than Watergate. Way, way bigger." - C. Duncan

    Bigger than Watergate? I doubt it, but it points to another stolen and rigged election.
     
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    Still no evidence that an "employee of Maricopa County" is responsible for the voting machine inking issue which resulted in thousands of Lake's voters being "disenfranchised" which led to her loss.

    Chain of command accusations have yet to be proven.


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    Sonnenklar: "There’s only 17k votes separating the 2 candidates for gov...I would say there's no question in my mind that had there not been tabulator issues...this election would have resulted with Lake winning." Gov.-elect Hobbs' atty: "But that's an inference you're making."
     
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    Judge will say to Lake
    Sorry Ole' Gal.;, you brought me **** as evidence;.
     
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    Clay Parikh is used to conspiracy dimwit loons like Lindel and Lake shaking their heads yes and just agreeing with whatever his latest spew is.

    Kari Lake 'Expert' Witness Gets Testy In Court When Pushed ...
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    21 minutes ago — The witness, Clay Parikh, has previously spoken at election denial events organized by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell.
     
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    Mike Lindell (according to him) has spent 40 million feeding his and others delusions.
    Lindell's and Trump's family failed them both big time by not doing an intervention long ago.
    Lotsa hearsay and double hearsay from Lake's witnesses


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    Honey also testifies she spoke with an MCTEC employee, Leslie, who said that seals were removed from ballot transport containers and ballots were not counted before going to Runbeck.

    Richer testified earlier that ballots aren't counted at MCTEC; they're counted at Runbeck.
     

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