Knocking Manufacturing Jobs

I was afraid of this.Rick Santorums winning message
of bringing back this Country to it's heyday as the envy of the
world in Manufacturing.Pat Buchanan wrote a book about it.
I see that as a way out for this Country from it's Economic
doldrums.Because not all Kids should expect to go off to
college.Or need to.Just watch the Movie - The Deer Hunter -.
Or even - Rudy - where a family could live comfortably on the
wage of a breadwinner { Male } working in a Foundry,Steel Mill or
Assembly plant.Good high paying hourly-scale jobs that actually
MAKE Something not just push paper.
Right now as a type,Lawrence O'Donnell has as guest on his 10pm
MSNBC ... guess who.? Little Harvard Professor and former
Labor Secretary under Clinton,Robert Reich.
They are arguing the merits of how all this Manufacturing Madness
is just that.Idle talk.WHY ? Because a Republican Frontrunner has
made it his signature issue on Jobs.That being bringing back
those Manufacturing Jobs like we had in the 50's,60's which
made us the envy of the world.
See how even common sense and good ideas get pushed under
the bus,when pathetic Liberal A$$klown like Robert Reich and Lawrence
O'Donnel wrap their filthy brains around.

 

Even the President has wrapped his head around the need to be back high quality manufacturing jobs to the United States. It is a rather obvious area needing to see job creation. The debate arises on how to bring back manufacturing jobs.

I know that you as a Republican would disagree with the President's approach. I also know that you likely favor Rick Santorum's approach on getting manufacturers to invest in America, which is by eliminating the repatriation corporate income tax for manufacturers equipment investment, the 5.25% corporate tax rate on repatriated income invested in the USA, and allowing 100% expensing for new business equipment.

From my perspective, I agree that we need to make the United States favorable for manufacturing, which Santorum is forwarding. However, how about we eliminate the corporate income tax, the capital gains tax, the death tax, and the income tax, and implement a derivatives and securities tax that taxes a sector of the economy that wields way too much power?

In addition, how about recognizing that a large portion of old age manufacturing is a thing of the past, and that the United States must start to produce new products. Renewable energy will have to play a factor. However, we must recognize that there are old sectors that should play a factor, such as steel manufacturing.

 

As a Malthusian, I say that we wouldn't have to worry about the global job shortage problem, at least not NEARLY as much, if it weren't for Earth being so massively overpopulated.

 

Well why didn't Obama and Pelosi spend some of that Stimulus on building
new Manufacturing plants.Maybe just one.Or how about a new Steel Mill.
Instead of some highly speculative ventures like Green Jobs.
We need to go back to what works.No more tinkering.
The world will always need steel.Bush was on the verge of saving the
Steel Indusdry with a Congresional act but spend his Political capital
on trying to get some Social Security reform and got scoffed down.

 

Well then explain China.They are building like crazy.In fact they have
been buying up our scrap metal like nobody's business.
What is China's population compared to ours.?

 

Actually, increased demand of oil and food from places like China and India are largely what explain the recent price increases of gas and food, globally.

Malthusianism is proved simply by supply and demand. If you have a certain supply of a commodity, and the demand goes up (due to, for instance, a population increase), then the price will increase. VERY simple.

My Malthusianism is also partly why I'm a geoist.

 

We simply cannot compete with the Chinese Hive mind on manufacturing. Whatever we do they will simply copy it and then slap the whip on the proles and sell it through State Subsidized manufacturers and drop the price of whatever product we make until it is unsustainable for American manufacturers to make it. All one has to do is point to Solyndra for this fact of economic life.

We absolutely must find a way to create an economy that has virtually no reliance on manufacturing as a job creator becuase we cannot compete.. face the economic facts.

This whining about "the common man who can't be a doctor so we must create stupid jobs for stupid people" is silly and counter productive.

Also can we PLEASE get off the STUPID idea of "green" manufacturing bringing America back? It won't because we as a society are not going to culturally accept what is necessary to do so.. State Capitalism and the associated lack of economic freedom such a thing entails.

 

My solution to that is to make people have an economic license to reproduce. That, along with adopting geoist Malthusian capitalism and ending excessive/wasteful government spending and idiotic violent government-enforced laws, would make prosperity in this country skyrocket beyond your wildest dreams. I guarantee that every bit as much as I guarantee the sun will rise tomorrow.

 

LMAO

Why do you adhere to the two most maligned and laughed at debunked economic theories of the modern day?

Malthus could only be right if human beings were too stupid to innovate solutions to any problem. We can innovate solutions to any problem.. including overpopulation.

Georgeism is a debunked economic theory that to most Americans is communistic and no American is going to let you take away his private property. He will literally shoot you.

 

I think that we can counter China's manufacturing prowess if we can create the most favorable tax system for job creation in the developed world, and by loosening the grip that provisions such as the minimum wage have on our labor system. From my perspective, Germany's approach to labor rights is pretty good. Do not institute a minimum wage for private sector institutions, however, increase the ability to collectively bargain and negotiate on the value of one's labor.

 

2 problems with that both cultural.

#1)The Democrats will never, ever allow you to eliminate the minimum wage.

#2)Our Unions have a distinct cultural hatred for their employers. It springs from the earliest days of the labor movement. They are not interested at all in fair negotiation, but in domination and control over the means of their production.

American labor unions are the most socialistic institutions in American society.

 

Why build new plants when we could renovate and reopen the ones we have. Simply put the government reopens the plants and then sells them off to the working public in a new savings that invests in these plants only as a savings to replace SS. The stocks could only be sold to groups of people meeting certain criteria. And before any of those know it alls out there start pulling stupid (*)(*)(*)(*) out of their asses it is completely legal to do this and it is done. Ford is a prime example: http://beginnersinvest.about.com/od/stocksoptionswarrants/a/ford-dual-class-stock.htm

So we could change the retirement portfolios, give people a reason to buy American (their retirement), do away with SS, create jobs and increase tax revenues all at one time. (*)(*)(*)(*) that is toooooo simple.

 

Yes,overpopulation is a problem.That is initially why Missionaries were
set up around the world.To teach people about behavior and the
consequence.Not just whether the water they drink is safe.
Some suggest that one huge inner agenda of the New World order
is one of population control on a massive scale.That uber wealthy
globalist robber barons want to drastically control the world's
population by any means necessary.Even highly nefarious means,like
purposedly giving populations cancers and disease.

 

yeah right! I'm not placing my social security at risk in some whacko venture to take on the Chinese hoping that Americans will buy American, because they won't.

 

Yes,that is possible,Have some bond issue made public to fund the
investment for a Plant.The problem with defunct foundaries is they're
potential is used up.Japan got the jump on us a few decade ago investing
in New Steel mills that turned out better and more inexpensive to make
steel.Then they dumped that steel on the U.S. market and forced
companies like Bethlehem Steel out of business.
Like a Gas Refinery it takes years to build a steel mill.

 

Yes, but only to a certain threshold. After that, the more the population within an economy, the less prosperous said economy will be, per person. The fact that it's possible to innovate around this is irrelevant.

Bottom line: if we required people to have a minimum economic license to have more than 1 child, the economic prosperity of this country would skyrocket. It'd also greatly help to end all these burdensome regulations and taxation on businesses and individuals.

Georgeism basically demands that land taxes exist. We essentially live in a form of georgeism today, considering that fact.

But consider this: the housing bubble was caused by the fact that it was TOO EASY to acquire land. Geoism would make it the opposite; it'd make it MORE DIFFICULT to acquire land. I'd say that would greatly help the economy and steer it from recession/depression as well, along with the above mentioned things.

 

I'm not so sure about that.Take Harley Davidson motorcycles.
Or something simple like our candy.The japanese love our
chocolate candy bars.

 

Social security is all but gone for most Americans. It has no future. I mean as jobs go out the money pool shrinks and the people keep aging.

Social security is no good.

 

I hope so. Social security, medicare, medicaid etc. should only be given to people in EXTREME situations. They shouldn't be given to people in their 70's that have bad hearing, and the like.

 

I know this may sound weird,but just the other night I had a dream
about Eminent Domain.My Old man used to take it for granted that
his home was his castle and that he was the boss on his own
Property,come hell or high water.He never knew about Eminent domain.
In the dream I had to explain it to him.That yes the Government,whether
Federal,state or local can confiscate one's land for a Public use.
But it need be a Public use or public good.In the dream,the bulldozers
were landscaping just feet from our home.Putting in a new highway
that was almost within an arms reach from our back porch.

 

Even under my style of geoism, you'd still own the land that your house sits on, plus some land surrounding it, but if you own a large amount of land, you'd get progressively taxed in proportion to the amount of land you owned.

 

Social security has been abused too much. People that so not need it get it. This is a society of entitlement.

If a person is 85 and can buy insurance why are they getting medicare? If they own their home and car and have savings why are they getting a check they do not really need while others who were less fortunate do without?

SS needs to be phased out and savings of some sort brought in.

 

How about the Democrats insisting on that Payroll tax extension.
Or the continuation of a lower Payroll tax.Saving most americans
around $40-100 bucks a month.Most americans aren't told that
the Payroll tax is what funds Social Security.Cut back on that Payroll
tax and that means Social Security gets cut back.To the tune of
$105 Billion this last ime.

 

Yeah right! China's "One child Policy" has been a demographic disaster!

It goes far beyond a simple land tax. It abolishes the very concept of a deed and being able to pass on land and property to your heirs in the event of death.

When the old leaseholder dies, if the State wants to it can revoke the lease and demand the child vacate the premises if it so chose to. It gives the State FAR more power over land than just a simple tax or eminent domain law.

 

For too long abuses of this country have been carried out by those who we elect to protect our interests all in the name of the next election.