Koyaanisqatsi

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sps6C9u7ras&wide=1"]Koyaanisqatsi[/ame]

    Now while some people might interpret this as a Luddite or environmental movie(the director himself states it wasn't intended to have a message), what really stands out to me is the incongruity of the humans and their new environment, the technological world. It's because the technology is pure and innocent, it has no conception of evil, but the common man defiles it with the smutty and impermanent unrealities of his existence.
     
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    The first post I make in months without any intent to troll or even a hint of sarcasm and I get nothing.
     
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    Prob too serious. Id watch but im at a bar.
     
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    Jack, people are greedy and selfish. That will never change. It's our greatest human failure, bar none.

    The development of technology is the hard work of brilliant minds and most people are just average. They're thinking....what can I get out of this?

    Really helping your fellow man IS technology, not redistribution of wealth - for example - this is govt stealing from one person to "give" to another. That IS stealing.

    Technology IS what really improves the lives of people.
    Forgive me for getting a bit off topic.

    It seems to me that there's a clash between environmentalism and technology. Today's leftist environmentalists seem to think that a better choice than technology is that mankind should all die off to save the world.....or live in caves. Cars are bad, electricity is bad, business is bad, people are bad.
    WE have a right to live too. WE are the smartest and dominant species on the planet.
    I don't buy into the guilt trip that mankind is bad and "should go away" for the sake of the Earth.

    Seems to me that we in America are pretty decent stewards of the environment and the left wants us to be ever more PERFECT - and that's not realistic. THEY should tell China and India to get their (*)(*)(*)(*) together and stop polluting and oppressing.

    What ever happened to common sense?
     
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    One more thing....I think the filmmaker is showing the contrast between the brilliant mind and the clueless mind. But this is not mystery, really.
    There's a range of intelligence in the human animal. There's the clueless, the average and the brilliant among us all.

    And the clueless will never understand the brilliant.



    That's REALITY

    And this film is NOT about the environment, but the human mind.
     
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    That appears to have been the Challenger disaster highlighted throughout.
    That last part showing the capsule falling and on fire....I've never seen that.
    So, so sad.

    The NASA scientists...one or two at least....knew the launch that day was ill advised, and Reagan wanted it to go ahead....or senior official at NASA did - prolly both.
    All the good feeling publicity around the event; and look how it turned out.

    Wasted lives.
    Wasted money.
    Wasted technology.

    Sad reality.
     
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    IMO, the Hopi prophecy at the end is interesting, but coincidental. Don't think they were predicting the Challenger disaster - which the film seems to imply.

    And that's the thing about prophecies: they are vague and we tend to find some event that seems to match it and then call it profound. Are they real? Are they not? Who knows.
    I sure don't think the world is gonna end on December 21, 2012. Do you?
     
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    That's what you get for habitually crying wolf.
     
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    Wow, this is a GREAT thread topic. Watch the movie. All of it. Worth it.

    I'd love to hear some more discussion on this.
     

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