Kyiv:UAF begin offensive ops in specific areas.

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    It was your link Durandal ? .. you were the one put up a link from Kyiv Source stating Russian losses over 800K .. are you now claiming that your Kyiv sources are spouting Kremlin falsehoods ?

    What is this silly nonsense D ? Pentagon is a Kremlin Stooge .. the Kyiv MOD a purveyor of Kremlin falsehood ? ?
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    https://kyivindependent.com/general-staff-russia-has-lost-844-070-troops-in-ukraine-since-feb-24-2022-2/

    General Staff: Russia has lost 845,310 troops in Ukraine since Feb. 24, 2022
    Russia has lost 845,310 troops in Ukraine since the beginning of its full-scale invasion on Feb. 24, 2022, the General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces reported on Feb. 6.
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    Which one is not like the others D ? Kyiv MOD - Pentagon (both Kremlin falsehood according to you) .. or Trump .. who you have also called a Kremlin stooge. ?
     
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    You keep claiming the Pentagon number is absurdly low compared to the Ukrainian MOD and Trump. You haven't posted anything to corroborate it. So yeah, which one is not like the others, and which one so far lacks any substantiation whatsoever?
     
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    I claimed no such thing .. .. you are the one crying out that the Kyiv figure is Kremlin Propaganda .. and that the Pentagon figure is Absurdly low ..having absolutely no idea what is going on .. unable to figure out which one is not like the other.

    Trump has claimed 800K Dead .. Kyiv has claimed 800K Losses = roughly 260K Dead .. Pentagon (though more dated so todays number is likely higher) 600K Losses =roughly 200K Dead .. which .. is not that far off the Kyiv figure.

    What part of the obvious .. in the came of "Which one is not like the other" .. do you not understand .. while running around crying "Kremlin lies" .. and other absurdities ? .. how is the Pentagon figure .. since was dated is now say 220K Dead .. "Absurdly low" compared to Ukraine MOD figure of 260K ? .. in light of the Trump figure 800K Dead ?
     
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    Baltics to totally disconnect from Soviet power grid and link up with EU grid , at 12:01 AM Feb.7/25. Orcs sound very upset:).

    Now the Mafiosi can't fvck with power grids to cut power off.

    I remain master strategist?;)
     
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    So now you're saying it's 600k and admitting that the number is "more dated so todays number is likely higher."

    QED.
     
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    Ukrainians getting significant bang for the buck in Kursk.
    Ukraine’s Kursk Incursion: Six Month Assessment
    Feb 6, 2025 - ISW Press
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    A small group of Ukrainian troops in Kursk Oblast have complicated the Russian military's efforts to advance in Ukraine over the last six months. Roughly a division's worth of Ukrainian troops have undermined the Russian military's ability to launch or renew offensive operations in lower-priority areas of the frontline and to reinforce priority efforts with elite airborne (VDV) and naval infantry units. The Ukrainian incursion in Kursk Oblast is a partial proof of concept of how limited Ukrainian battlefield activity that leverages vulnerabilities in Russia's warfighting capabilities and that integrates technological adaptations with mechanized maneuver can have theater-wide impacts on operations.
     
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    Zelensky has a clear view.
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, February 5, 2025
    Feb 5, 2025 - ISW Press
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    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky continues to demonstrate his willingness to negotiate with Russia from a principled position that preserves Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity in the long run. Zelensky reiterated during an interview published on February 4 that Ukraine cannot and will not compromise its sovereignty in future peace negotiations, but that Ukraine's partners are not currently providing Ukraine with sufficient military assistance for Ukrainian forces to push Russian forces from all occupied Ukrainian territory.
     
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    Thus I hope the current administration recognizes that it's important for Ukraine to be able to negotiate from a position of strength, hence with equal or higher levels of aid from the US and other partners, if they want to force ruZzia into some kind of ceasefire and ultimate lasting peace.
     
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    Sounds like UA is expanding its area in Kursk as the Norks pull back.

    KJ is possibly giving Pootler the FU behind his back.

    But he'll still provide Botox chimp with garbage hardware....at 700% markups of course.
     
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    They are the little axis of evil that couldn't.
     
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    ...another one fallen out a window.....

    Artur Pryakhin, Head of the Karelian Federal Antimonopoly Service, committed suicide

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    ....https://www.mk.ru/photo/gallery/50286-993231.html
     
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    I have been quoting the pentagon number o 600K casualties for a few months ? a figure you have heard many times .. what is the problem ? and why have you not addressed the simple "which one not like the other" question.

    Trumps figure 800K dead -- Pentagon 600K casualties = 200K dead .. which we adjusted up to 220K dead being a bit "dated" -- Kiev 260K .dead .

    What part of Trumps figure is loopy doopy .. did you not understand from the figures from various sources .. and how is it that you not understand the difference between KIA , Casualties and Losses ? how is that possible after being here every day for 3 years ? how is it possible that you are confusing one with the other ? ..

    Looks -- like you . Trump has confused the Kyiv figure 800 Casualties .. with 800 dead .. simple mistake for Trump .. not dealing with this day in day out 7 days a week . for over 1000 days .. and still not grasped that that number of casualties and number of dead are not the same.

    Would you like a lesson in basic battlefield terminology ? I will be happy to provide if you are still uncertain .. best be explaining the difference KIA - Casualty-Losses - so that we know .. that you know the difference. @zoom_copter66 @Jack Hays Feel free to sit in on the lesson team ...
     
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    Russian casualties in Ukraine are +/- one million.
    Ukraine Conflict Updates
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, February 5, 2025

    Click here to read the full report.
    Key Takeaways:



      • Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky continues to demonstrate his willingness to negotiate with Russia from a principled position that preserves Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity in the long run.
      • Zelensky reiterated that the Ukrainian Constitution bans Ukraine from holding elections during wartime, but that Ukraine remains committed to holding elections in accordance with Ukraine’s constitution and laws after the war ends.
      • Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky stated on February 4 that Russian forces have suffered roughly 300,000 to 350,000 killed in action (KIA) and roughly 600,000 to 700,000 wounded in action (WIA) since the February 2022 start of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
      • Ukrainian forces conducted a strike against an oil depot in Krasnodar Krai on the night of February 4 to 5 as a part of an ongoing strike campaign against Russian defense industrial enterprises and oil refineries.
      • The Russian military continues efforts to restructure Russia's peacetime military administrative control over military services (вид; vid) and is apparently disaggregating administrative control for Russia’s Air Force and Navy from Russia’s military districts.
      • The Kremlin continues to prioritize domestic political stability over efforts to mitigate economic pressure and labor shortages.
      • Ukraine and Russia conducted a one-for-one prisoner-of-war (POW) exchange on February 5.
      • Russian forces recently advanced near Kupyansk, Toretsk, Pokrovsk, and Kurakhove.
      • Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Pokrovsk. . . .
     
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    Holy Guacamole .. put that firehose down Jack ;0 .. why are you posting from the Cocaine Comedian ? when we already the number from Kyiv MOD .. these two need get on same page as Trump and the Pentagon .. but why would you accept the words of either clown as worth anything ... given the track record of firehose falsehood.

    Regardless -- we have the number from Kiev of which is not ridiculously far off the Cocaine comedian 260 KIA (on 800 casualties) the pentagon figure of 220 KIA .. (on 660K casualties) .. and Trumps figure of 800 KIA.

    "Obviously" Trump misspoke and was talking total casualties not dead. .. even the Cocaine comedian is less than half that figure.

    Right D @Durandal :) tell us the difference between casualties and KIA .. still waiting on your answer since you mistaking the two .. and we want to know that you now understand .. and can tell us which one is not like the others and why .. now having 4 figures A) 220 B) 260 C) 300 D) 800 KIA !!!
     
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    ....I think he pissed off the local oligarch....:roflol:
     
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    Zelensky is accurate and you know it.
     
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    Reporting that he fell does not, of course, explain exactly how he fell. A question that will likely never be answered.
     
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    Hard to keep your balance when your hands and feet are tied.
     
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    He was was in the ballpark of the Ukraine MOD's estimate .. 40% higher than the Pentagon which is not horribly out of the park .. whether we call this accurate is not the question .. the game is "which one is not like the Others" are you not familiar with how the game is played Jack ?

    It turned out that while Zelensky's figure was not "way out of the ballpark" .. It was the figure that Trump blurted out that was "way out of the ball park" .. Right ! .. did you not know it Jack ! :) :cheerleader: and D too @Durandal .. did you not know it ! :cynic::cynic: of course you do .. Right ! :)
     
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    You still haven't provided any link, but you admitted that your low number was not as low as you originally claimed, and admitted that it was past its sell-by date.

    I know that you'll never admit when you're just making stuff up and wrong, which is basically 100% of the time, but it's pretty obvious at this point.
     
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    So what?
     
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    Russian singer-songwriter who spoke out against war in Ukraine dies after falling from window during police raid
    February 6, 2025
    Source: OVD-Info

    Vadim Stroykin, a Russian singer-songwriter who has spoken out against the war in Ukraine, “fell” out of a window while security officials were raiding his apartment on Thursday, according to the human rights project OVD-Info. He reportedly died on the scene.

    Russian media reported that law enforcement officers visited Stroykin’s home in connection with a criminal case against him for allegedly donating money to the Ukrainian Armed Forces.​



    Another one bites the dust mafialand style.
     
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    So .. Trump's figure was way out of the ballpark .. some of the other team members were having great difficulty understanding the difference between numbers dead and number of casualties. @Durandal @zoom_copter66

    Now that we have a more coherent estimate of battlefield losses on the Russian side ~800K - and 2.4 million on the Ukrainian side. We can better understand why Ukraine has a fresh meat problem .

    Let us not project your failings "making stuff up and wrong" onto me. I provided a link for the Pentagon figure and the Ukraine figure. It is you who has not managed to come up with a link .. nor an estimate for Ukraine Losses but, worry not .. Jack has shown that claim of 800K dead on the Russian side that Zoomer has constantly cites is preposterous nonsense.

    Now the Question for you D is if you have yet to figure out the difference between casualties and KIA .. thus improving your battlefield assessment abilities.
     
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