Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Several pretty astonishing statements are made in this video...... the Hurricane of Money
    prediction just after the 17 minute mark is extremely important and also.... the idea of
    governments going to churches for answers that governments cannot figure out at the 24
    minute mark is also huge!


     
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    True... and here is a community that is doing a great job of applying this principle.


    http://www.npr.org/2011/09/26/140737591/bartering-for-health-care-yardwork-for-treatment

     
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    It's illegal in the US to issue currency.
     
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    That is not true.......
    but you have to claim it when you earn Ithaca Hours, and pay income tax on ten dollars for every Ithaca Hour that you earn.


    Pastor Bill Johnston foresees a time when the Awakening will transform the economy......

     
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    Here is the catch......
    http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/17/pf/local_currency/index.htm?iid=F_Jump

     
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    True...........
    which is one of the reasons why I personally do NOT want to see the USA dollar devalued at all........


     
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    Churches... are in a position to place much greater value on human life.......
    due to some near death experience accounts by Christians and some
    similar visionary dreams in which this statement was made:

    http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tc-en.html

     
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    England, France, The United States.... they all began with Church members

    Currency; however, was mainly owned by aristocracy.
     
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    A tulip crisis for christians.
     
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    Exactly!

    Let's play with the idea of "tulips" and think perhaps in terms of.......
    the conflict between the fundamentalist Christian Community.... and.... the LGBTQ communities......

    If.... the idea is essentially correct that G-d places essentially INFINITE VALUE... .on each and every
    human life........ (not to mention the lives of animals)......... then........ how far should we Christians go to at least try our best
    to save....... or at the least significantly improve the lives of others.........
    even our ideological enemies.......
    such as members of the Gay community?????

    Two of the things that most of us Christians could give Mr. Peter Boykin credit for is that he is astonishingly intelligent...... and we really do like the fact that he gives credit to President Donald J. Trump for his efforts to try to be fair to all his employees.... no matter what their race, creed, color or sexual orientation......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...y-a-huge-role-in-2018.530877/#post-1068984550

    Mr. Peter Boykin is in a position to play a HUGE role in 2018....
     
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    Here might be an easier way to look at it. If you see a person on fire, do you need to be a Christian, to help put the fire out? Help in the areas you know the differences and learn, if interested, in the areas you'd like to be a part of.
     
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    Hence, the good Samaritan.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed.......
    Atheists have some amazingly positive near death experiences......

    https://www.near-death.com/religion/atheism.html
     
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    I have seen Atheists that were more spiritual and G-D fearing than some avid Church goers.
     
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    Something rather strange happened in the nation of Israel before Operation Moses and Operation Solomon..... the air lifting of tens of thousands of Falasha Jews from Ethiopia to Israel.

    A significant percentage of deeply religious Israeli Jews did NOT support bringing the Falasha Jews to Israel.... but Israelis who termed themselves Agnostic or even Atheists...... supported the venture enthusiastically.

    In my opinion..... Operation Moses and Operation Solomon was one of the most ethical acts of the past century....... Caucasian Israelis...... taking tens of thousand of Black Jews of Ethiopia to Israel and giving them citizenship....... Wow!!!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Moses
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Solomon
     
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    2nd part,

    Matthew 21:31

    “Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.”
     
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    It is Operation Moses for this exact rason

    Numbers 12 King James Version (KJV)

    12 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.
    A Black Woman.

    2 And they said, Hath the Lord indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the Lord heard it.

    3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.)

    4 And the Lord spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out.

    5 And the Lord came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth.

    6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

    7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house.

    8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the Lord shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?

    9 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against them; and he departed.

    10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.

    11 And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned.

    12 Let her not be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he cometh out of his mother's womb.

    13 And Moses cried unto the Lord, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech thee.

    14 And the Lord said unto Moses, If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be ashamed seven days? let her be shut out from the camp seven days, and after that let her be received in again.

    15 And Miriam was shut out from the camp seven days: and the people journeyed not till Miriam was brought in again.

    16 And afterward the people removed from Hazeroth, and pitched in the wilderness of Paran.

    Many Black Jews.
     
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    The many places in Africa where Jewish tribes migrated is pretty amazing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Nigeria
    While I was in Quito, Ecuador I was kind of amazed to see the native peoples building what sure looked like a Sukkot for New Year's Day.

    http://beta.moshiach.com/index.php/item/ecuador
     
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    I knew of a Black Convert, to Ultra Orthodox, and that is even more rare than Hen with Teeth even !!!

    Bottom line, he was annoyed over the extra attention he received, he turned down numerous Shaboth invites, and I reminded him, better are too many invites rather than non at all.
     
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    It is nice to see that the Lemba tribe is being verified as part of the lost tribes of Israel.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/136374

    Another Fragment of the Lost Tribes of Israel Found in Africa?
    British scientists have confirmed with DNA testing that an African tribe in northern South Africa that claims Semitic origins is telling the truth.
     
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    And the time for the metaphorical Bride of Messiah to rise up and
    get involved in a second tier to the USA and world economy........
    in my opinion...... is here and now!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-trump-do-this.532781/page-23#post-1069082971

    61 dead Palestinians.... why did Trump do this?


     
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    It's interesting, but the problem of the churches is not that they can not help the poor. The problem of modern Christianity is that there is no Holy Spirit in it, all are dead.

    Dead people are useless to treat.

    Any improvement in the world system, it would seem, for the sake of the good of people, always turns against the people themselves, because this world is governed by the devil. To defeat the devil, a spiritual revolution is needed that will unleash this Gordian knot.

    And this revolution is a very simple thing: we must build the Third Temple in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel.
     
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    I agree.... back in 2010 I read an interesting article from a Christian from Uganda who is
    advocating exactly this.

     
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    Yes, and the borders of Israel must also be different.

    map_israel.png
     
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    Impressive............
    we desperately need an outpouring of the Holy Spirit / Ruach ha Kodesh first........

    Trump immigration policy and Islamic restoration...

     

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