Large majorities of the American People are in favor of the Covid Relief bill...

No doubt you've seen those words repeated ad nauseum, by the press (especially), and by those who want the democrat wish list passed at all costs.

But here's the thing.

Of course people were in favor of the bill. They were effectively being paid $1,400 bribes to buy their favor in the first place. Given that, I'm frankly surprised the support for the bill wasn't actually much higher. Sheer greed led me to being mostly in favor of it myself, even though I think overall it's stupid, because I plan to get a 65" TV complete with a high-end soundbar that are built to work together with half of it (I'm married, so we're getting $2,800), and the other half is going into our retirement account. Or I might use it for some toys for my PC, we'll see.

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.”

While it is most commonly thought that Alexis de Tocqueville is the source of that quote, there is some controversy about that. Frankly I don't care who did or didn't say it, the words themselves are spot on.

 

Print money out of thin air then give it away. It's called the keep your constituents happy form of democracy.

 

There may be many reasons so many are in favor of the latest covid relief bill. Many people are hurting, many businesses are hurting, well not so much in Florida thanks to the repub governor. Another reason is the media keeps telling us how the bill will benefit the USA. They fail to tell us the bill will also give our tax dollars to foreign countries along with mucho money going to dem run cities that have been run into the ground. The media has an agenda -- help Bidden and the dems at all costs.

 

And it works GREAT. Until it doesn't.

 

And all of this wouldn't be necessary if a certain president hadn't removed all the pandemic safeguards left in place by the previous administration.

 

WOW. if you ever get back here on earth you should check out what's been going on.

 

Trump crippled our pandemic response team shortly after taking office. While we can speculate the ramifications of that, there is no denying he did just that.

 

FREE has always been the magic words dems have relied on; along with the ubiquitous "Somebody else" that is supposed to pay the bills. It buys votes, every time. It will also lead to the fall of the democracy.

 

My mistake. I took your posting the other way around. I apologize.

 

Been there, done that too.

 

I recently told a hardcore lefty friend of mine that I was liking this whole free money thing, and thinking about becoming a Democrat so the free money will keep coming. He called me an a$$hole, and ended the conversation.

Think is, I'm actually half serious about it. I am liking the free money, and given that I'm disabled and can't work, even moreso. And yeah, eventually it'll lead to the whole house of cards coming crumbling down, but I'm 51 years old, the chances are I'll be dead and gone by the time that happens, so why should I care? Bring on more more free money!! Keep it up and I'll vote dems moving forward. Even if it does mean we have open borders, higher taxes, and our descendants are screwed. Principals be damned, I want my free money!!!

 

Despite your sarcasm, I recognize you say you are disabled. Now unless that disability is in your motivation, it it is genuine impairment, there are few people who would say we shouldn't help.
There's difference between true need and plain greed. A difference between a political act that genuinely helps people in need, and a monster spending bill titled in the name of something good
like the new "Infrastructure" bill which actually only uses 7% of it's funding toward the purpose represented.

If you want the nation to work in the long run, you have to make your decisions with a long term perspective. Like driving a car with blinders that prevent you from seeing more than 50 ft ahead, short-term thinking invariably brings on disasters. The dems make promises they have neither the intention or ability to keep, and misrepresent things to grab- power, which they seem to have no idea how to use wisely.

Helping people truly in need winds up being a casualty of the idea that somebody else will pay for everything, because in truth there is no "somebody else" with bottomless pockets they can loot- they actually steal from all of us. Even you.

 

I wonder if the widespread support might also be linked to the fact that a recent ex-President also supported giving people the same amount of money and a lot of his supporters agreed because the last 12 months has left them a bit short.

Nah, couldn't be.

 

At least his spending proposal didn't involve 91% of the money going to pork barrel special interest areas.

 

Did he burn all the n95 masks and ventilators too? That might explain the shortages.

 

I think we're on the same side here, sort of. Yes, I believe that people with a legit disability are entitled to be taken care of, especially those of us who paid our insurance premiums for decades. And while I'm being somewhat sarcastic when I say I'm becoming a democrat because I like free money, aside from disability payments, like the gubmint cheeze check we just got that we're buying a 65" premium smart TV and sound bar combination with (a little more than half, actually, the rest is going into our retirement money). So thanks, Prez Biden for the free money!!

The only way this whole house of cards doesn't come crashing down eventually is if it turns out we truly can continue printing money with no consequences. Heck, maybe that's why people are democrats in the first place, because they truly believe that's possible, so screw it, we'll keep gifting ourselves free money from the treasury.

I still am being half serious about becoming a democrat, though. Not because I believe the Treasury can keep printing money forever, but because greed makes me believe I won't live long enough to see the consequences. But maybe my principals (and math) will win out after all. Not that I'm a hardcore Republican, I'm more Libertarian, but that just means I think same sex marriage is A-OK, and people should be able to own guns and smoke pot, while at the same time taxes should be aggressively cut, and property taxes should be banned by the Constitution. Oh, and that endless money printing will (eventually) cause our society to collapse.

But who knows, maybe they're actually right. Maybe we really can endlessly print. Only time will tell. But that's not a bet I'd make, even if I won't be around to see it happen. But I think I've already said that like four times.

 

Of course, all of us will eventually not be around to see the future beyond our lifespans. When we are young, or if we feel defeated, or we feel sorry for ourselves, most of what we think will revolve around us personally. The more mature we are, the more we learn to be self-sufficient and learn how valuable that characteristic is- the more things change. We begin to see the benefit of improving the mental strength and resolve of everyone, of promoting independence and self-sufficiency, and the peace and freedom that comes with those things. The future we will not see becomes important, because it is the extension of ourselves, of our lives, and of today. Our life is but a portion of a much larger job of improving the human condition- and I'll be damned if I will ever settle for leaving the world worse than I found it. I'm old, most of my time to make a difference is past, but not all of it. There is no question in my mind that the world is a better place and the future will be better for those who follow because I've lived here. There are others doing the opposite- but I shall never be one of them.

 

The real question is how many would support it if they knew how much it cost them? If I have $1400. and the government leaves it alone, I have $1400.

That same amount going through the circuitous government, through the many hands with sticky fingers, costs me a lot more than I get.

Many receiving the stimmy suffered no loss in income.