Las Vegas shooter's laptop missing its hard drive

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    A laptop computer recovered from the Las Vegas hotel room where Stephen Paddock launched the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was missing its hard drive, depriving investigators of a potential key source of information on why he killed and maimed so many people, ABC News has learned.
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-shooters-laptop-missing-hard-drive/story?id=50709285

    Maybe this should be in the conspiracy section because this case is getting ridiculous.
    Is it possible the police are just discovering this? One would hope not. That leaves the question of why wouldn’t they have reported this to the public? Can’t think of a good reason to keep it from us.

    Anyone know of what use a computer is without its hardrive? Lord knows I have a hard enough time keeping them useful with one. Is it possible for a computer to start and function as a camera/moniter?
    If not there would be no reason for Paddock to keep the computer at all. Why bring a useless chunk of metal to the hotel? Other option is he removed it after the shooting. OK, so where is it?

    If the contention becomes he removed it after the shooting this information should have been released immediately. Lots of people involved in cleaning up that mess could have been on the lookout instead of sweeping it up and throwing it away.
     
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    Without a hard drive a computer will only boot up to the opening BIOS screen telling you it can't find either the hard drive or operating system. BUT - it's possible to run a computer off a flash drive if the BIOS is set up to look for it and the flash drive is set up as being bootable. If that's the case, the flash drive could have been flushed down the toilet before the shooting started or possibly just thrown out the window.
     
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    Thank You Steve for that confirmation. Now that you mention it I vaguely recall that from my windows days. Wasn’t stuff that I wanted to learn that’s for sure. LOL

    Just being reported the security guard left the country after the shooting. I think it was a rumor before.
    That and Paddocks brother was just arrested for child porn.
    We never seem to get the answers anymore. Almost seems like the people who are supposed to have them don’t bother looking. Weird stuff
     
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    But why would he bother to do that? It's not as though he was involved in some sort of group, whose details needed to be kept hidden ... right?
     
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    Why would he necessarily have removed it, assuming it was removed? Someone did over his house the day after the house, taking computers etc.
     
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    The people who should know, either do or don't know ... and both are very good reason for the media blackout. I suspect they do know.
     
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    Your sounding conspiratorial. Wasn’t long ago I would have laughed at ya for that. Seriously beginning to wonder what the hell is going on in this country.
    That interview by DeGeneris was one of the saddest displays of CYA I’ve ever witnessed. Drunk drivers come up with better excuses.
     
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    Taking the HD out of a laptop is simple and it's the ultimate way of guarding your information (secrets?) I'm going to assume this nut case would have known his shooting spree was going to be big news and he knew everyone would look into every detail of his life. Knowing that, he just wanted to take his secrets with him. For all we know, if he was tied to some group and they knew he was going to do this, they told him to remove the HD before starting so they don't get caught up in this. But who really knows?
     
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    Maybe he had kiddy porn on it from his brother?
    Sounds terrible to say but that may be one of the most innocent things he was hiding.
     
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    Well he could wish to drive the government crazy from beyond the grave for the hell of it.

    I think if I was a nut case that wish to cause even more harm I would not just take the hard drive out but I would first wipe the drive completely and then encrypted it knowing the government would be spending millions of dollars trying to break into a wipe drive.
     
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    As far as the American public is concerned a missing hard drive is much more suspicious causing more disturbance and distrust. His target was the American public, not the government

    If your correct and he had a beef with the government we’ll probably never know. Or so it seems.
     
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    I don't think there's anything wrong with your country generally, I think there's something very wrong with this particular event.

    And I say that as someone who finds conspiracy theories mostly hilarious.
     
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    I suspect the latter. There are others involved in this, I think that's one thing we can be certain of. His house being turned over, the hasty declaration of a solution by the PoPo, the weird brothers, the official silence, the dude arrested with a car full of almost identical firearms a few days later, the unprecedented silence of 500 odd witnesses, etc etc. And that's before we even get to how incredibly wrong the perp is in terms of profiling.
     
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    Better yet, put a brand new drive in the computer with nothing on it before it's encrypted.
     
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    Possible of course. Seems a little trivial though, in light of what he was planning.
     
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    From first reports there also seems to be some indication that he had some hope of getting away after his first attack so maybe some of his actions should be view from that angle.

    He was both an pilot and a plane owner so if he could somehow escape the shooting site he could be out of the country within hours.
     
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    If he was intending to escape, this totally undermines the official 'finding' of a lone nutter who had a brain snap. TOTALLY.
     
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    Why as from the careful plannings for the attack over months there was never a question that he could not function at a high level but that does not mean that he was sane and not a lone nut case.

    The Unabomber come to mind as an example of a complete lone nut that still could work and plan over long time periods at a high level.
     
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    Planning the thing in advance isn't the deal breaker, the planned escaping and carrying on with life (large sums sent offshore, etc), is.

    It absolutely doesn't work with a suicide mission. Or even a well planned mission, which the perp knows will probably end in his death or capture.
     
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    Sorry, don't know much about the referenced case. Can you give overview?
     
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    There something in the human heart that tend to rejected the very idea that a not all that important person can do great harm acting by himself.

    As how could a loser like Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone killed one of the most beloved presidents in our history, so there must be powerful forces behind the killing not just Oswald with a cheap rifle.
     
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    Adam Lanza. Newtown school shooting in Connecticut. 20 young children and six adults gunned down.
     

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