Lawyer Jenna Ellis pleads guilty in Fulton County election case

I'm not sure I follow your question. "His," I assume, refers to Meadows? Since I think all his actions were at Trump's request, I don't see the contradiction. He told Trump something. Trump ignored it, and gave him instructions which did not reflect a consideration of what Meadows had told him. But Meadows respected that it was Trump's call, not his, to make.

How is it "relevant?" Well, that depends on what else Meadows has to say. Perhaps, for example, he will say that Trump acknowledged, at some point, understanding that the "stolen election" narrative was all bullshit, but wanted to pursue options to retain the Presidency, regardless.

I am not saying that a claim to just be following the boss's orders, is a good excuse-- I'm just trying to figure out how, with regard to the news about Meadows' deal, or to Trump's trials, your reply is relevant.

 

My stuck record......ETTD, QED.

 

Kaboom!

 

You're right about that.
The reporting on this supposed event is lacking.

To have gotten any kind of immunity deal it best be good?

 

in order to "still" believe", that implies that one must have believed once. Again, who is the POTUS? The selfie-fest was not an INSURRECTION as pushed by your Democrat party

 

Did Cassidy Hutchinson testify that Meadows said he told Trump that the election wasn't stolen?

The problem with Meadows is that he told EVERYONE what they wanted to hear.
Spineless power hungry wimp.

 

Define “Insurrection” and then explain why what happened on 1/6 does not meet the definition

 

the definition per the Democrat party and Democrat media? Or, what it would take to have an insurrection where there are 50 individual states with much autonomy ?

Please go ahead

If you want to keep pushing a selfie-fest, in a country with 50 individual states, as an insurrection, then toe the Democrat party line all that you want. It's foolish

I really feel sorry for you for not even considering what makes the USA unique, but instead, allowing partisanship to cloud your ability to see. That's all on you

 

YOUR definition. How do YOU define an "insurrection" and why doesn't what happened on 1/6 fit that definition.

 

It isn't our job to read for you.

 

A strategy so simple to Fani/prosecutors yet remains a foreign concept to Trumpers.
Why is that? lol


'With Plea Deals in Georgia Trump Case, Fani Willis Is Building Momentum'

snip:

'With Mr. Trump and 14 of his co-defendants still facing trial in the case, the question of the moment is who else will flip, and how soon. But the victories notched thus far by Ms. Willis and her team demonstrate the extraordinary legal danger that the Georgia case poses for the former president.

And the plea deals illustrate Ms. Willis’s methodology, wielding her state’s racketeering law to pressure smaller-fry defendants to roll over, take plea deals, and apply pressure to defendants higher up the pyramids of power.

The strategy is by no means unique to Ms. Willis. “This is how it works,” said Kay L. Levine, a law professor at Emory University in Atlanta, referring to large-scale racketeering and conspiracy prosecutions. “People at the lower rungs are typically offered a good deal in order to help get the big fish at the top.”

But Ms. Willis, 52, is particularly well-versed in this aspect of the prosecutor’s art. She used the same strategy a decade ago, as the lead prosecutor in a high-profile racketeering case against Atlanta public school educators accused of cheating to improve their students’ standardized test scores.'


cont:
https://dnyuz.com/2023/10/25/with-plea-deals-in-georgia-trump-case-fani-willis-is-building-momentum/

 

Chesebro and Ellis each plead guilty to one felony.
Are these RICO felonies?

 

Two things:

1. Selfie fest? Did you view none of the thousands of hours of video?

2. I am not, and have never been, a Democrat.

 

Wow just wow I don't think you even though I've already posted but I'll help you out with a well versed expert in such prosecutions

By ANDREW C. MCCARTHY
October 24, 2023 1:15 PM

Jenna Ellis Guilty Plea Underscores the Absurdity of DA Fani Willis’s RICO Case

Willis wildly overcharged the election-interference case and is now picking off some defendants on minor charges.

Former Trump 2020 campaign attorney Jenna Ellis pled guilty this morning in the Georgia election-interference case to a minor offense — aiding and abetting the provision of false information to the state — for which she will receive no jail time.

Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis has hyped her prosecution of Donald Trump, Ellis, and 17 others affiliated with the Trump campaign as a racketeering-conspiracy case, depicting the former president as the head of an organized-crime enterprise. I have contended that Willis does not have a RICO case under Georgia’s analogue to the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act of 1971. The throng Willis has indicted did not function as an identifiable criminal “enterprise” as defined in RICO, and she lacks a single criminal objective as to which she can say all 19 defendants agreed. (It is not a crime to seek to reverse an election result — indeed, Georgia law provides for legal challenges to election outcomes.)....

....Because all four guilty-plea defendants are now cooperating with the state, the lack of a RICO plea is telling: Ordinarily, prosecutors require the first cooperators in a major case to plead guilty to the major charges, offering them sentencing leniency in exchange for their testimony against other defendants. Those kinds of pleas convince the public that there is a strong case and put pressure on other defendants to plead guilty. But not only have none of Willis’s cooperators conceded that there was a RICO conspiracy, much less pled guilty to it; none of them faces even a single day of imprisonment....
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023...s-the-absurdity-of-da-fani-williss-rico-case/

 

She wasn't his personal atttorney she was a legal adviser and the person in charge of the Fulton County thingy. See above where I supported exactly what I said by a former US Attorney who prosecuted some of the biggest RICO cases.

 

The former US Attorney who prosecuted some of the biggest federal RICO cases as I cited above and of our top Professors of criminal and constitutional law earlier. My sources know of what they speak better than you.

 

The clip I'm hearing, though it may be from a more recent, T.V. interview, is Hutchinson saying that Meadows had told her, of Trump, "It's over, he knows he lost." The significance, if Meadows will be testifying-- he may have only had immunity for his testimony to the Grand Jury-- is that there is no one who can more credibly testify to Trump's state of mind, to what Trump had been thinking.

 

Nope.
Try harder.

Snip from video of Giuliani introducing Trump's and Trump Campaign's "senior lawyers"

"GOOD AFTERNOON, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. THIS IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR LEGAL TEAM. WE'RE REPRESENTING PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN. WHEN I FINISH, SIDNEY POWELL AND JENNA ELLIS WILL FOLLOW ME, AND WE WILL PRESENT IN BRIEF THE EVIDENCE WE'VE COLLECTED OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS. ALSO JOSEPH, JENNIFER, VICTORIA IS HERE WITH ME. THERE ARE A LOT MORE LAWYERS WORKING ON THIS, BUT WE'RE -- I GUESS WE'RE THE SENIOR LAWYERS '


video
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4924401/user-clip-comments-rudy-giuliana

 

America's system of justice under which no one is above the law is not everyone's cup of tea.

Trump is forced to play by the rules in court and doesn’t like it​

 

I don't pre-judge Meadows, Powell, Chesebro, Ellis, or anyone else who has been complicit with Trump's schemes.

I am edified that so many are now apparently coming clean

Truth is good.

... Ellis, who worked closely with Rudy Giuliani, had been pretending for years to be a "constitutional law" attorney, even though she had actually been an assistant district attorney prosecuting traffic tickets for a mere six months in Colorado before being fired. With her fake "expertise," Ellis had been at the forefront of efforts to pressure conservative judges and election officials to steal the 2020 election for Trump.

"I look back on this experience with deep remorse.
I relied on others, including lawyers with many more years of experience."​

 

You do understand that the opinion you're reading was written for the intent to make money, right?
McCarthy makes money from writing opinion pieces that are published for, in this case, nationalreview.com, for them to attract viewers to increase traffic so they can charge money for advertising. The more views, the more they can charge and attract new advertisers. So, they tell some people, mostly the type that frequents their website, what they want to hear. There is not much factual information, and if you want to espouse their views, have at it.
The part I can't figure out is how in the heck you expect everyone else to believe this and treat anyone who doesn't as if they are idiots.
IT'S A FREAKING OPINION!
I and many others have a differing one. Time will tell which one is accurate, or that none of them are, or it's a combination of part correct, some not.
Just don't get so worked up about it being the "truth".

Edit: I have seen more than a few times in the recent past that McCarthy got it totally wrong.

 

Trump's lawyers were trying so hard to get Cohen to lose control cross examining him, repeatedly calling him a liar,felon on and on when inadvertently it was their guy Trump who lost it.

 

If Trump can be goaded into taking the witness stand in any of his trials, the court should be prepared for a volcanic eruption of projectile hooey, a tour de farce of perjury.

 

You “don’t think me”?? Maybe you mean “thank”? No, probably not. Typical word “tossed salad”? Maybe. It’s hard to decipher.

LOL!!! National Review of RW insanity. If the National Review is correct that Willis is clueless and her case is BS, then why isn’t a complete “win” possible for the defendants? It’s the same old story: the Trumpers cannot win, they cannot even make a fair showing and cannot justify their actions at all, so they resort to complaints about the system and to claims of crimes they can’t prove and for which they have no evidence, and declare the rest of the nation to be “woke” or “conspiring” or “jealous” or some other bullshit, and then whine about unfair treatment and “tyranny of the majority" or some such crap.

Whine, whine, whine instead of a winning legal strategy. But that’s what criminals do.

Face it. Trump’s most trusted conspirators and attorneys are coming clean when the going get tough, rather than take the hit for “The Apprentice” con man. That’s the way the legal system works. It’s amazing there are still a few who believe him.

 

Hopefully, the other 6 that Fulton County DA will flip soon as well.